A challenge....let me hear it!!!

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 3 May 2009 12:47 pm

As Doug truly says, Jeff did opine "don't take the bar off the strings," and that was his way of making things simpler for a beginner and for teaching correct right hand blocking. He didn't want to confuse a newbie by adding exceptions to the rule that more advanced players utilize all the time.

So I'd agree with Jeff, and then I'd add a big "BUT, when you get good enough, you'll learn that there are occasions when it's not only okay, it's a good thing. So for now, young'un, keep the bar flat on the strings."

John Polstra · Post by **John Polstra** » 3 May 2009 7:18 pm

b0b wrote:Ideally, there should be 3 different places on the neck where you can play any given part.

B0b, I understand the concept you're trying to get across, but does it really work out that way in practice? I'm just 3 months into learning this instrument, and I've been focusing on country tunes using the E9 aspect of my U-12. As far as I can tell, the one cliche that most country PSG parts use is the I-Isus4-IV transition that you get by pressing the B pedal and then rocking onto the A pedal. I haven't been able to find any other way to get that sound except by using the A and B pedals in one specific position. In fact, I use that to figure out the positions a given song is being played in. Are there ways to get the same sound in different positions?

John

John Polstra · Post by **John Polstra** » 3 May 2009 7:21 pm

Jeremy Threlfall wrote:I nominate Doug B - see his post in 'Tablature'. There is an audio clip that goes with it. Recorded on a student Emmons 3x1.

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=156103

Thanks for the pointer. That ending is my new favorite palm blocking exercise.

John

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 4 May 2009 2:52 am

Bo only uses 3 pedals and 3 levers. A,B,C pedals and LKL raises the E’s to F, LKR lowers the E’s to Eb and a lever that lowers the 2nd string D# to D.

He doesn’t have that much problem dropping down to a student model if he can set it up his way.

Bo usually sets up the student model Steels (3pedals and one knee) with A, B, C pedals and the knee lever to lower the E’s to Eb of course to get his favorite steel licks the unison 3 simi tone pedal bend and the C pedal E lever split. This split is used to take the place of the A pedal F lever major chord and for the A, B pedals and F lever Augmented chord.

He also tunes the 2nd string down from D# to C# to help out with the bar slants and unison licks.

The F lever 7th position is substituted by moving up 2 frets and lowering the E’s to Eb and most of the F lever chords can be simulated in this manor.

I guess technically you could call this an E13 tuning.