eight-string E13th tuning?
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eight-string E13th tuning?
Does anyone use this tuning?
G#
E
C#
B
G#
F#
E
D
The more I hunt and peck, the more I find that I like.
I can get both major and minor three-part harmonized
scales without slants with this tuning.
G#
E
C#
B
G#
F#
E
D
The more I hunt and peck, the more I find that I like.
I can get both major and minor three-part harmonized
scales without slants with this tuning.
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Hey Andy, interesting tuning. What guitar do you have it on? I have a D-8 National with an E13 on the outside which is G# E C# B G# E D B (high to low) I'm looking at your tuning and see a lot of possibilities you have by having that F# string in there as far as two and three string chord positions.........JH in Va.
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Re: eight-string E13th tuning?
I use that one with the E and D on the bottom reversed. I've been thinking about switching them.Andy Greatrix wrote:Does anyone use this tuning?
G#
E
C#
B
G#
F#
E
D
The more I hunt and peck, the more I find that I like.
I can get both major and minor three-part harmonized
scales without slants with this tuning.
Close. I had my Sierra tuned like that for a couple of years - except for the 8th string which I tuned to B. I needed one low chord position and B-F#-B worked out pretty well.
Do you tune your F# to the D, the B or the C#?
Do you tune your F# to the D, the B or the C#?
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I am with "b0b" on this one. There are so many E13th tunings that it would be impossible to grab just one and stick with it. The variations are endless.b0b wrote:Close. I had my Sierra tuned like that for a couple of years - except for the 8th string which I tuned to B. I needed one low chord position and B-F#-B worked out pretty well.
Do you tune your F# to the D, the B or the C#?
We steelers have this thing about not sticking to anything for more than a few months before our inquisitive mind takes to another variation.
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Andy - This has been my 8 string E tuning of choice for a long time. It is very versatile for melody playing and tight chord voicings - dominant chords all over with both easy forward slants and straight bar.
The thing that originally attracted me to this tuning was its familiarity with the E9 pedal steel neck (minus the high chromatic strings and with the a-pedal C# thrown in.) It's a nice way for an E9 pedal player to get into the lap world.
The thing that originally attracted me to this tuning was its familiarity with the E9 pedal steel neck (minus the high chromatic strings and with the a-pedal C# thrown in.) It's a nice way for an E9 pedal player to get into the lap world.
And vice versaAmbrose Verdibello wrote:It's a nice way for an E9 pedal player to get into the lap world.
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E13th add 9
regular E13th (with 3rd on top) is typically:
G# .010 or .011"
E .014 or .015
C# .017 or .018
B .020
G# .024
E .030w
D .032w or .034
B .038w
but you can adjust this a bit.
for Andy's variation, I think I used an 0.028w for the F# string.
I strung up my guitar with Andy's E13th (add 9???)
and my first impressions are this:
1. it feels like a pedal steel on the lower strings
2. I'm not finding the F# that useful yet for chords
3. I miss the loss of range in the lower register
4. it feels funny having the root on the 7th string.
That said, I'm gonna play it for a while and see how I warm up to it. Thanks, Andy.
G# .010 or .011"
E .014 or .015
C# .017 or .018
B .020
G# .024
E .030w
D .032w or .034
B .038w
but you can adjust this a bit.
for Andy's variation, I think I used an 0.028w for the F# string.
I strung up my guitar with Andy's E13th (add 9???)
and my first impressions are this:
1. it feels like a pedal steel on the lower strings
2. I'm not finding the F# that useful yet for chords
3. I miss the loss of range in the lower register
4. it feels funny having the root on the 7th string.
That said, I'm gonna play it for a while and see how I warm up to it. Thanks, Andy.
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Instead of one of the E13's I've been working with the straight E9 - B,D,E,F#,G#,B,E,G# low-high and forgoing the C# in favor of keeping the low B and the F#. I don't miss the C# in this tuning. If I have a 6 note, everything has a tendency to sound a little similar (that's due to my inexperience). Not having a 6 in the E tuning helps me put the sound into a different place than what I play in the C6 tuning. The 5-1-3 on top gives the right sound for honky-tonk classics. The 2-3-5 presents the same interval sequence as the 5-6-1 for licks and that helps keep it a little familar. I'm having reasonable luck getting some "pedal-steel" sounds out of it.
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Re: E13th add 9
Or, you could alter the guages for the high end on this tuning significantly... On my short scale Maggie I use 16s for the top 4 strings.Tom Wolverton wrote: G# .010 or .011"
E .014 or .015
C# .017 or .018
B .020
G# .024
E .030w
D .032w or .034
B .038w
but you can adjust this a bit.
I use a .012 for the high G#. I don't have the guts to go any thicker than that.
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b0b; On my E9/13 Tuning, E~B~D~E~F#~G#~B~C#~E~G#, I tune the F# in-between the B & C# strings, just as I do on my PSG. (Oops!) I just tune it until all three notes blend for their best possible sound! I think thats part of the unique E9/E13 sound. Sounds ok for an A6 and also E9 chord. Then I tune the D-string to blend with the G# & B strings. (On the PSG, [Oops again] I have an extra pull-rod when I lower my E's to raise the F# to pitch for a good B6.) <just thought I'd sneak that in there!> Sorry โbout that mis-step!
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