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Philip Bender

 

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Post  Posted 9 Mar 2009 1:32 am    
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Aloha all,
Here are some pics of the dbl 10 that I have been working on.OOps, I guess it doesn't like my file, anyway, it is the classic shape in white and black with the body made of laminated hard maple, Emmons pick ups, which are rubber mounted for isolation from vibration and also Emmons Key stock. It of course has 10 strings per neck, with abalone fret markers, and diamond shaped abalone inlays on front. The fret boards are back painted high impact acrylic/polycarb alloy, with drop outs to show the abalone. It is a 24 5/8" scale with 24 frets. The leg mounts are custom made to fit 1/2-13 thread. In between the necks, there is a bar holder recess, and a place to put picks. I used a toggle selector switch, and dome chromed control knobs. This guitar was built per the from Don Fullmer, and will be in use as soon as possible.
I will try again to add the pics, mybe I will email to someons who has more luck adding pics.
Aloha , Phil


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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 9 Mar 2009 7:18 am    
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Hi Philip ... it might be the pics are to big for the uploader.
b0b posted this in the feedback section the other day

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If you can reduce your image width to 640 pixels, it will make it upload go faster and put a much smaller burden on the server. Try www.shrinkpictures.com if you don't have any software installed to reduce the size of your pictures.

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Skip Ellis


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Post  Posted 9 Mar 2009 8:17 am    
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Phil - e-mail me your pics and I'll post 'em.

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Philip Bender

 

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Palmetto FL USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 9 Mar 2009 11:57 pm     dbl 10
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There are some more pictures, but I will send them later.
Phil
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Jason Dumont

 

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Bristol, Connecticut, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 1:12 am    
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Holy Moly! That thing is GORGEOUS!
Amazing job Phil. Amazing
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Thomas Ludwig


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Augsburg, Germany
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 3:32 am    
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Phil,

s u p e r c o o l !!

Thomas
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Blake Hawkins


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Florida
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:09 am    
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Oops...double post...sorry

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Blake Hawkins


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:12 am    
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Phil....Beautiful Guitar. Another example of your
talent and fine workmanship.
I'll look forward to hearing you or Don play it.
Blake
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Don McGregor

 

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Memphis, Tennessee
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:23 am    
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Man! You give me inspiration.
I'm still trying to find the time to put together my single neck 10 stringer. Seeing these pictures of your beauty is getting my juices flowing.
Jerry Wallace is making me a TT-10 with 3/8" pole spacing, and when it arrives, I will have no more excuses. Is yours, as it looks to be, pedal steel string spacing? If it is, how well does that work for slants? If it is not, then where in the heck did you find a roller nut w/3/8" spacing?
Anyway, your new baby looks really exciting. Please post some more pictures when you have time.
Thanks,
Don
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Don McGregor

 

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Memphis, Tennessee
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:23 am    
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Man! You give me inspiration.
I'm still trying to find the time to put together my single neck 10 stringer. Seeing these pictures of your beauty is getting my juices flowing.
Jerry Wallace is making me a TT-10 with 3/8" pole spacing, and when it arrives, I will have no more excuses. Is yours, as it looks to be, pedal steel string spacing? If it is, how well does that work for slants? If it is not, then where in the heck did you find a roller nut w/3/8" spacing?
Anyway, your new baby looks really exciting. Please post some more pictures when you have time.
Thanks,
Don
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Don McGregor

 

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Memphis, Tennessee
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:25 am    
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I just said that.
Deja vu?
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Ray Shakeshaft

 

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Kidderminster, Worcs, UK.
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:55 am    
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I apologise before I ask and it might be considered a stupid question but I have never seen a double or triple necked LS.....

Is the wood solid under all the fretboards? If so isn't it a remarkably heavy piece of kit?

That looks a beautiful instrument but might I get a hernia picking it up? My six string is heavy enough.
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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 6:32 am    
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Great job Philip .. Thats a beauty Smile
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norm mcdaniel

 

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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 8:21 am    
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Hi Philip- That is a beautiful guitar-I love the green abalonie and wood work. Did you make the bridges your self or buy them somewhere? I never have good luck making my own. Are they machined?

Thanks in Advance
Norm McDaniel
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Fred Shannon


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 8:28 am    
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Wow Phillip, what a beautiful job. A guitar this nice just echoes the word TONE. Betcha' it goes all the way to the BONE!!! Laughing Laughing

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Philip Bender

 

From:
Palmetto FL USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 10:19 am     dbl 10
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Aloha all,
I will attempt to answer all the questions in order;
The guitar is laminated out of 13/16 x 9 1/4 sanded planks, and in my feeble attempt at controlling the resonant frequency situation, Wait lets not go into that, just say most all things in nature have a res freq, and according to my prof, you need to stay well above that freq, and as you work with it(/) then pass thru or stay above it????
Any way, it seems to have worked as the tone and sustain is great, but it is heavy. My axiom is mass = repeatability, should stay in tune.
The bridges are of my design and fabrication, I tried to bring the strings up through the body, and move the bridge forward as much as possible. What was` next?
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Les Anderson


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The Great White North
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 10:33 am    
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Beautiful guitar Philip.

Now for the inevitable question, what will you be tuning those necks to?
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 11:32 am    
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Fabulous!!!!

Make me a D14.
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Philip Bender

 

From:
Palmetto FL USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 2:02 pm     String spacing on dbl 10
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Aloha Don Mc,
The spacing is per pedal steel, but last year when I was working on the lap steel w/ tuning changer, I made my own nut, with a band saw, and file and it turned out great. I will send you a picture.
Phil
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Philip Bender

 

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Palmetto FL USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:13 pm     Dbl 10 tunings
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Aloha again,
#2(outside) neck is tuned to B11th as follows:
1 B
2 E
3 C#
4 A
5 F#
6 D#
7 B-------C#
8 F#------A
9 F#
10 B
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Alan Brookes


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Brummy living in Southern California
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:37 pm    
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Great work, Phil. Cool
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Danny James

 

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Summerfield Florida USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 5:43 pm    
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Hi Phil,

Wow that guitar turned out really nice. I was fortunate enough to see the guitar when Phil was starting to put the first coats of finish on it.

His technique for installing the abalone in the fretboard works out really well and adds to the overall looks of the guitar. Idea

I'm betting Don Fulmer will be one happy fellow when he first gets his hands on it. I too am looking forward to hearing him play it. Very Happy

Keep up the good work Phil,
Danny
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Gary Stevenson


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Northern New York,USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2009 6:44 pm    
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Yep its a beauty Phil!It inspires me to try my hands on a dual 6 stringer. I just can't get my head around more than six strings.Again nice work Winking
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Philip Bender

 

From:
Palmetto FL USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 11 Mar 2009 1:17 am     dbl 10 tunings
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This guitar was built forDon Fullmer, and here is the other tuning that he uses:
Don changes the 1st string to D depending on the songs he plays also the overall tuning changes to the C#, and A in the tuning for different songs.
The #1 neck (inside neck) is tuned to C6th as follows;
1 D
2 E
3 C
4 A
5 G
6 E
7 C---or D
8 A#--or A
9 G--- or F
10 C
Note:This tuning also changes depending on the song.
Don Fullmer
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Don McGregor

 

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Memphis, Tennessee
Post  Posted 11 Mar 2009 5:39 am    
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Philip,
I just spent some time tracking down the pictures of your tuning changer 6, along with a picture of a roller nut you made.
First off, that instrument is a beaut!
I had a Breedlove guitar a few years ago with Walnut back and sides, and it had the deepest bass of any guitar I have ever heard. Walnut is just one of the prettier woods on the planet.
My Jerry Wallace TT-10, with 3/8" spacing arrived yesterday, and now I'm toying with the idea of trying to make a roller bridge with 3/8" string spacing. Is is possible to buy just the rollers, maybe with an axle included? I think I can make the notched body out of brass or aluminum, my main concern being trying to drill an accurate axle hole all the way through it with my cheap drill press. I guess I could always just lay the axle in a groove, and let string tension hold it down.
Philip, I love what you're doing. Please post or send any more pictures or info you think is relevant.

-Don-
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