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Marc Jenkins


From:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2009 12:35 pm    
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I don't venture over into the No-Pedal zone much from the other side , but I'm thinking about playing some Hawaiian steel. Can anyone recommend:
- some essential listening
- most commonly used tuning (my 6 string lap steel is tuned to C6)
- some good learning material?

Thanks!
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Ray Montee


From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2009 1:01 pm     Hawaiian steel guitar....................
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YOU couldn't go wrong, if you grabbed a copy of JERRY BYRD's "NANI HAWAII" album with Danny Kuuana.
Hawaiian music at its best.

JERRY BYRD's "HAWAIIAN BEACH PARTY".....is also a great album. Others of lesser stature include Berle Ives', Hank Snow and several others.

THIS is AUTHENTIC HAWAIIAN........not honky tonk steel.
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2009 1:45 pm    
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Click here ... http://www.cumquatrecords.com.au/

Then click ... "Hawaiian" ...

Then click ... "Andy Iona Collection" ...

Scroll all the way down ...

Then buy ... Steelology

Mr. Green
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James Williamson


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California & Hawaii
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2009 7:25 pm     Hawaiian Records
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Thanks Rick, got Andy Iona's Steelology.

Ray, no luck in finding a cd of Jerry Bryd's Nani Hawaii or Hawaiin Beach....any suggestions?

james
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Andy Volk


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Boston, MA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2009 8:23 pm    
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Nani Hawaii has been out of print for many years. The original 78s show up on eBay occasionally. It was reissued on LP as "On the Shores of Waikiki" and is available as a very expensive Japanese import:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O5ZFYM

On the Cumquat site, you can't go wrong with their Andy Iona, Dick McIntire and Augie Guptil reissues. David Feet Rogers with the Sons of Hawaii is another must buy for classic traditional Hawaiian playing.

http://www.mele.com/music/artist/sons+of+hawai%60i/best+of+sons+of+hawai%60i+-+vol.+1/
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Edward Meisse

 

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Santa Rosa, California, USA
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2009 12:22 am    
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Nobdy seems to have mentioned yet that the most commonly used tuning is C6 with the E on top.
It's hard to suggest learning material for someone who is probably more advanced than I. You can get an awful lot of Jerry Byrd tablature from Scotty's Music. Scotty has some of his own as well.
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Marc Jenkins


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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2009 12:45 pm    
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Thanks everyone.

Edward, my steel is tuned:
1. E
2. C
3. A
4. G
5. E
6. C
Is this the 'high E' tuning you mention?
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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2009 8:01 pm    
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If you are gonna play for a general audience, the usual "tourist" music will get you by OK, like Blue Hawaii, Pearly Shells, etc. Most folks wont know any real Hawaiian music anyway, so stuff they have already heard should fill the bill.
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Marc Jenkins


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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2009 10:38 pm    
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Bill, I'm thinking mainly of learning and listening more to the real thing, rather than the tourist stuff. Although I'm not afraid of the tourist stuff either, especially if I find myself with a set list to fill...
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James Williamson


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California & Hawaii
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2009 10:54 pm     Jerry Byrd Records
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Thanks Andy,

I got the reissued LP...I think Scotty's might have the other one on LP..so I'll check back there.
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Edward Meisse

 

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Santa Rosa, California, USA
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2009 11:57 pm    
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Marc Jenkins wrote:
Thanks everyone.

Edward, my steel is tuned:
1. E
2. C
3. A
4. G
5. E
6. C
Is this the 'high E' tuning you mention?


Yup. That's it alright. Very Happy

And I can also suggest listening to "Hawaiian Steel." It comes in Volumes one through 5 now, I think. I have 1, 2 and 3. It seems to cover the gamut of what's being played these days.
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Josh Cho


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New York, NY (orig. Honolulu, HI)
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2009 9:21 am    
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History of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar is a great top-down look at the instrument from acoustic through electric and includes most every player ('cept Jerry Byrd, which is why many might not know about it Crying or Very sad )



Here's the link to the album at mele.com
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Marc Jenkins


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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2009 9:45 am    
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Thanks everyone!
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Mac McKenzie

 

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Auckland, New Zealand * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 22 Feb 2009 7:11 pm    
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If you want to learn Hawaiian I do not think you can do any better than to look to the Hawaiians. Get a Hawaii Calls record with Jules Ah See on steel, play it through 3 or 4 times to get the sound and feel of the music, choose a slow number with Jules playing and listen into what he does. He will show you the very suble slide into and away from a note, he will give you a balance of single notes, 3rd and 5th harmonies and chords. His guitar has enough tone to hear when he comes down to the lower strings which will give you an idea where he is on the fretboard. If you cannot get his chords on your tuning, settle for 2 out of 3 - who is going to tell you are wrong anyway? - If there is a vocal, listen to his backing and fills - I have a tape of a live show and he harmonises with the vocalist - brilliant and beautiful - if it is an instrumental listen for the changes second time through and enjoy his improvising. As Jerry told us when he was here " It is all there for you to find - good luck."
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