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Topic: Has Anyone Used BlackViper |
Cass Broadview
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Posted 29 Jan 2009 4:43 pm |
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I found this neat website that tells you what you can supposedly, remove from your Windows operating system safely. Has anyone used this program? Did your computer run better afterwards? Cass
http://www.blackviper.com/ |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 29 Jan 2009 5:41 pm
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Cass:
I remember this site from several years ago.
Avoid it.
The font colors alone should make you suspicious.
The site is generally intended for those who are trying to squeeze out the last bit of performance from a PC when gaming--the thinking being that shutting down all the extraneous services might gain you a slight edge over a rival in a game, if your PCs were otherwise close in performance.
It isn't intended for general usage and I have seen plenty of online comments that it isn't even accurate for its intended purposes. |
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Don Poland
From:
Hanover, PA.
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Posted 29 Jan 2009 5:56 pm
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| Cass, I have used that site and have made "tweaks" as discussed in the list they show for Vista 32bit. I cant say I have noticed a considerable speed change but I have to say, I am a lot happier without all the windows opening asking if I really want to do something or windows telling me that I am making changes. Try it for yourself and see if you like it. There is nothing there that can not be put back to default mode. I think you will like it. |
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Robert C. McKee
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2009 8:13 pm
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What Don said. It's kinda nice to know what's going on in the background needlessly at any rate.
Bob |
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Cass Broadview
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Posted 30 Jan 2009 7:48 pm
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A gamer from here on the forum sent me this private message on what to remove safely. I dunno, whatcha think?
"First I disable UAC. I don't need the hand holding.
Next is I stop Windows Indexing. Some people use it, I don't.
Next is System Restore. I know this will be a hard one for people to understand. I do turn it on and create a restore point before I add any additional programs or update Windows. Since this is for my BUSINESS, I don't install anything anyways.
Windows Sidebar. WHY??? Outta there.
Remote assistance and Desktop.
Vista Aero. Pretty i know, but i don't need it.
Update my drivers. If I can get away with it. I only install the drivers, not any "helper" programs the vendors think I need.
If I have any little icons in the system tray, I look to see if I can disable whatever put them there. The only ones I use are sound and clock. All others must die.
Then I go through add remove programs and look for anything that I don't recognize, or is not needed.
Lastly, I go through services installed.
Then tell your daughter to remove what's on my list. This will help in her gaming mode.
Using services.msc I make these changes to Vista
Service Name Set to
Aplication Experience Disabled
Aplication Layer Gateway Service Disabled
Aplication Management (only in Vista Premium) Disabled
Certificate Propagation Disabled
DFS Replication Disabled
Diagnostic Policy Services Disabled
Diagnostic Service Host Disabled
Dagnostic System Host Disabled
Distributed Transaction Coordinator Disabled
Fax (only in Vista Premium) Disabled
Function Discovery Provider Host Disabled
Function Discovery Resource Publication Disabled
Health Key and Certificate Management Disabled
Human Interface Device Access * Disabled
*unless you use the volume on the keyboard
IKE and AuthIP IPSEC keying Modules Disabled
Interactive Services Detection Disabled
IP Helper Disabled
IPSEC Policy Agent Disabled
KtmRm for Distributed Transaction Coordinator Disabled
Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper Disabled
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service Disabled
Netlogon Disabled
Network Access Protection Agent Disabled
Parental Controls Disabled
Peer Name Resolution Protocal Disabled
Peer Networking Grouping Disabled
Peer Networking Identity Manager Disabled
PNRP Machine Name Publication Service Disabled
Portable Device Enumerator Service Disabled
Problem Reports And Solutions Control Panel Disabled
Quality Windows Audio Video Experience Disabled
Readyboost Disabled
Remote Registry Disabled
Smart Card Disabled
Smart Card Removal Policy Disabled
SNMP Trap Disabled
Tablet PC Input Service Disabled
Terminal Services UserMode Port Redirector Disabled
Virtual Disk Disabled
Web Client Disabled
Windows CardSpace Disabled
Windows Connect Now-Config Register Disabled
Windows Image Acquisition Disabled
ALL Windows Media Center Services Disabled
Windows Remote Management Disabled
WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto Discovery Service Disabled
And there you have it. My way of setting up a trouble free standard laptop. All tweaks are to save clock cycles and memory usage."
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Wiz Feinberg
From:
Mid-Michigan, USA
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John Cipriano
From:
San Francisco
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Posted 31 Jan 2009 10:52 pm
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If someone I know calls me for help with their PC the first thing I say is "try System Restore". If that doesn't work I ask them to send me a Remote Assistance invite. If the answer to either of those things was "I turned them off because I don't need them", I'd probably refuse to help them at that point since, being such an "expert", they don't actually need it. If someone turned off UAC and then caught some virus or malware as a result, I'd probably have a good laugh about it.
My point is that you should err on the side of keeping your computer safe and secure. Gamers like to think they know everything about PCs but if you spend enough time seeing things from an IT standpoint you would look at that list of disabled services and balk. Human Interface Device Access...you'll end up wondeing why your new multimedia keyboard is missing features. Windows Image Acquisition...where did my camera and scanner go?
Sure, a lot of those services are aimed at computers joined to a domain (certificate propagation, IPSEC, netlogon) but most of them aren't set to start when the computer starts anyway. If the service is set to manual then it's only running as needed.
I don't mean to scare you off of tweaking your computer. It can be fun and there's no reason not to. But (1) keep a record of what you did, so you can undo it if necessary (2) have proper backups and (3) don't disable security updates. And take what you hear from everyone, including me, with a grain of salt. I also used to check the Black Viper list, but now I don't since I know what each service does so I can make my own determination as to how necessary it is. |
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