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Topic: Gibson EH-185 ???? |
Rickey Mitchell
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 5:26 pm |
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Does anyone have any experience with a Gibson EH-185??
I'm thinking that's my next lap steel.
But I'm wondering if there's a vast difference in sound
between a BR-9 and a EH-185
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Rickey (Noel) Mitchell
paddleandflies.com
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Bryan Bradfield
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 6:31 pm
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Be careful with the prefix. I believe that "ES" signifies "electric Spanish", while "EH" represents "electric Hawaiian".
There was an EH-185, but I don't think that there ever was an ES-185.
You are looking for an EH-185, if you are looking at an alternative to a BR9. The BR9 is definitely an "electric Hawaiian". |
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George Keoki Lake
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Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 8:44 pm
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110 years ago I stupidly sold my GIBSON EH-185 7 string model. In those days, Gibsons, Nationals, et al were 'common' guitars, easy to find in most any music store. Given my druthers, I'd take the EH-185 over the BR-9.  |
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Rickey Mitchell
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Fresno the center of California
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 4:54 am
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| George Keoki Lake wrote: |
| 110 years ago I stupidly sold my GIBSON EH-185 7 string model. In those days, Gibsons, Nationals, et al were 'common' guitars, easy to find in most any music store. Given my druthers, I'd take the EH-185 over the BR-9. |
I went through the same with Les Paul jr's.
When I lived in Battle Creek Michigan they were all over the place. I was buying them for 30$ and 50$ a piece and selling them for $300 and up. This was during the 70's
Hi George, is there a difference in sound between the two, if there isn't I'm not going to pay a thousand for a EH-185.
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Rickey (Noel) Mitchell
paddleandflies.com |
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Phil Sikes
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 8:01 am
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I have never played the BR9 but I recently picked up a EH185 7 string that I do love. It has some serious tone and I have it strung in C6/A on the bottom. It has even improved my D10 C6 playing.
Phil
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Rickey Mitchell
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Fresno the center of California
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 8:15 am
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I have never played the BR9 but I recently picked up a EH185 7 string that I do love. It has some serious tone and I have it strung in C6/A on the bottom. It has even improved my D10 C6 playing.
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Hey Phil, Does the EH-185 have the P-90 pick up.
Also I wanted to mention to you I've had a blind pet crow going on 17 years now.
Names Edgar we've had him since he was two weeks old.
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paddleandflies.com |
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Phil Sikes
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 10:27 am
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Rickey, the pickup is normally referred to as a Charlie Christian. I do love the little axe.
It seems as if we have more in common than steel guitars. Crows are pretty amazing birds and very high on the intelligence scale.
I am also a fly fisherman and used to tie custom order flies back in the early seventies when I lived in Rhode Island. Now I only tie occasionally for myself. We have some great fishing up in the northwest if you ever make it up this way.
Phil
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Richard Shatz
From:
St. Louis
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 1:59 pm
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| The early EH-185s had C.C. pickups. The later models had ES-300 pickups (the forerunner to the P-90). |
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Bryan Bradfield
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Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 4:46 pm
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| I've not encountered an EH-185 yet, but I am advertising my BR9 for sale right now in Canada. I've had it for years, along with a 1950 Supro student model lap steel. I am totally in love with the Supro to the extent that the BR9 remains virtually unplayed for the 30 years I've owned it. |
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TonyL
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Seattle. WA
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 4:48 pm
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I too unwisely sold my EH-185. It had the slanted ES-300 style pickup.
Fantastic sounding guitar. TL |
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Richard Shatz
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St. Louis
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Posted 20 Nov 2008 4:20 pm
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This seems to be the beginning of a great thread.
As far as I can ascertain, Gibson postwar lap steels had either a P90 or humbucker with the exception of the Skylark and the last rendition of the Century, which had a minihumbucker. So, except for those two models, the only major difference among Gibson lap steels was the style, type of wood and the occasional Ultratone with both bass and treble controls. |
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Rickey Mitchell
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Fresno the center of California
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Posted 21 Nov 2008 7:26 am
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Tony L and Phil
The slanted pick-up EH185 is the one I'm interested in. What was the sound like from that ES-300 pick-up.
Phil, I'll be PMing you about that fishing offer and birds.
Richard, With the exception of my New Yorker the Gibson BR-9 has that fat sound I'm after. I would like better substain but it could be my amp.
FORUM
I’ve been playing my steels through an ancient Epiphone bass amp called The Constellation V with a 15” speaker, that I’ve been using since the early 70’s. I’m waiting till Christmas when my wife lets me have that Fender Hot Rod Deluxe with 12” in it before I think about selling any of my steels to get another one.
Another thing about the BR-9 is it looks about as student model as any instrument can look, I mean those numbers are big. However I do like that sound.
The only time I’ve heard the EH-185 was when I saw and heard David Gilmore play one on U tube and I loved it.
I’m going to be down in Southern Ca in February doing a fishing show, I’m going to check out a few stores that have some old Gibson steel, beginning with Norm’s Rare Guitars.
If anybody knows of any others in the area of say Pasadena, Ca please let me know.
From the research I’ve done on Gibson Lap Steels
I haven’t learned much more than the knowledge Richard has shared.
My preference for Gibson lap steels probably comes from the fact that I was a bottle neck guitarist for many years before I traded my glass pill jar for a Dunlap bullet bar at least I think it was. My Guitar was a rebuilt 1955 Les Paul standard with what else P-90 pick-ups.
A listen to Freddie Roulette changed all that.
That's all the ranting for now.
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 23 Nov 2008 1:05 pm
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Rickey Mitchell
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Fresno the center of California
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Posted 23 Nov 2008 2:18 pm
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Well hello, Michael. Thanks for the info. I'll go ask old Mr Lovable about it.
He didn't mention it when he worked on my BR-9,I had the Pick-up rewound and new tuning pegs put on it. Have we met? Maybe from the old Wild Blue Yonder days. I worked at the door and I was the opening acted from time to time.
I actually go by my middle name Noel.
Does Mike's 185 have the slanted pick up?
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paddleandflies.com |
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 23 Nov 2008 7:00 pm
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Michael Lee Allen
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Posted 23 Nov 2008 7:15 pm
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TonyL
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Seattle. WA
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Posted 25 Nov 2008 10:38 am
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The tone of the EH-185 is big and fat; the highs are not as pronounced as on a Ricky or with the Charlie Christian pickup. It sustained forever as well.
TL |
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