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Paul Norman
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Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 5:53 am |
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Many people worked for Sho-Bud before the end of the
company. Many of these started manufacturing their
own steel. So they had the tuning heads made as
near to Sho-Bud as they could because they knew it
was good.
They had the changer, Maple body, undercarriage
except maybe for the pot-metal parts. All this as
near to Sho-Bud as possible.
And they all have a different sound and not even
like Sho-Bud's. |
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 8:55 am
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| And so??? |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 9:32 am
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Paul,Could you give us some Names? 
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 10:49 am
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| At a minimum, the names would be Marrs, Franklin, and Jackson. But I'm with Andy - so what? |
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 12:09 pm
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So What? So now I know who worked for Sho-Bud. 
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Larry Petree
From:
Bakersfield. Ca. USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 12:17 pm Zane Beck
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ZaneBeck also worked for Sho-Bud, and I don't see any thing on the ZB that looks like a Sho-Bud.
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 1:03 pm
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| Who are "all" these companies making Sho-Bud takeoffs? Is this suppose to matter to someone? |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 2:09 pm
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| There were other companies in the late 60s, early 70s who made guitars that looked remarkably similar to Shobuds. Miller was one. You have to look at these other's earliest guitars. There have been several over the past couple of years posted here on the Forum asking "What kinda guitar is this?" I believe it was Ricky who told me that all these guys, Shot, etc., were friends, and that Shot would sell parts to them. I think that it was an early Marlen that was posted here that actually had a gumby headstock. |
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Micky Byrne
From:
United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 2:38 pm
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As all the rest are asking....so what?? is this just a statement or is there a question lurking???? 
Micky Byrne United Kingdom www.micky-byrne.co.uk
Sho-Bud and Carter universals |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 4:07 pm
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I think Paul is posing the following question:
If all of these guitars retain many aspects of the original Sho~Bud guitar, why do none of them sound like a Sho~Bud?
If that's Paul's question or statement, it seems valid to me. But I don't really have a solid answer. 
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Paul Norman
From:
Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 4:27 pm
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Thank you Chris. Thats exactly what I meant.
but I was not expecting the "so what negative
attitudes"
Maybe takeoff was a wrong word.
But the people that worked at Sho Bud was building
the guitars the way they did at Sho Bud.
Marlen,MSA,MCI,ZB,BMI,Carter,Franklin, Marrs, and others. None have strong
Sho-Bud characteristics. |
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Antolina
From:
Dunkirk NY
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 4:29 pm
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Cuz nothing sounds like a Bud
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Sho~Bud 6139 3+3
Marrs 3+4
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2008 4:58 pm
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When I replied "And so???" I didn't mean it to sound negative. What I meant was, and so??? is there more...
Even though those other guitars have a connection with Sho-Buds past I think that they have their own sound and the only thing that's gonna sound like a Sho-Bud is another Sho-Bud. |
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Paul Norman
From:
Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2008 4:00 am
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You are right R.C.
They may sound different but none sounds better. |
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Jerry Malvern
From:
Menifee, California, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2008 9:17 am
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Sho-bud sound? I've owned 6 of them, and each one sounded different. My favorite, '73 LDG
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Paul Norman
From:
Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2008 9:23 am
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| Jerry, Those guitars are beautiful. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 3:54 pm
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| Cuz nothing sounds like a Bud |
When someone asks "What is the modern equivalent of a Sho~Bud?" I always tell them Fulawka.
An S-10 Fulawka is one of the guitars on my "short list" to buy next. |
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 4:15 pm
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Donny, I think the Fulawka has a lot in common with a Sho~Bud looks-wise, but I don't find they sound alike at all. The Fulawka has its own thing going on, to my ear. It is less "scooped" than a Sho~Bud, for lack of a better tone description. As much as I love Sho~Buds, I will also point out that the Fulawka is designed and constructed completely by the hand of Eddie, and is thus a precision instrument whereas the Sho~Bud was at times more mass-produced and assembled by numerous employees. I can understand why someone would make the connection between Sho~Bud and Fulawka, but to me it's more for cosmetic reasons.
I would call a Jackson steel the modern equivalent of a Sho~Bud. After all, David and Harry Jackson designed most of the Sho~Bud models, and the new Jackson guitars are a progression of those ideas. My Blackjack sounds strangely close to my Professional, both in tone and sustain. In fact, my Blackjack sounds closer to the Professional than my 80's Pro 1 did, if that's possible.
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 5:05 pm
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Donny,
I have heard it said that the Fulawka is the one that sounds the closest to the ShoBud. As for looks, no I cannot see any similarities there. For example, the sculpted end plates are totally different than the SB's straight ones. The F's undercarriage is very different, with it's 1 to 4 hole bell cranks, square cross rods and so on.
My take is that the Fulawka has its own unique Fulawka sound. That is, if used with the original Fulawka humbucking pickup.
If you could be lucky enough to get yourself a new Fulawka, you won't regret it. |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 8:57 pm
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Maybe I should have worked at ShoBud
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 18 Jun 2008 9:04 pm
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| Richard, you obviously put a lot of time and sweat into that instrument. That's proof of a true love for pedal steel. Great job. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 8:04 am
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Fulawka: A Sho~Bud on steroids! 
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 9:08 am
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Bo has several Sho-Buds and they all sound different. Since they are all different models of Sho-Bud there is no way to tell if the same models would sound the same.
Maybe some of you guys with the same models could get together and have a pissssing contest. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 Jun 2008 9:17 am
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This is supposed to be one of the best sounding models:
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