Steel players who are not nice guys?

Billy Murdoch · Post by **Billy Murdoch** » 2 Apr 2008 1:09 am

I am not trying to stir up a hornets nest here and I hope no one gets their smalls in a twist.
I have been at Dallas four times for the TSGA show and We recently visited Nashville.
I have met and spoken to many steel players,by that I mean players who are performing at the particular venue I was visiting.
I have only encountered one player who(in My opinion) did not have a friendly personality.
I will keep my opinion to Myself for obvious reasons and I do not wish to see anyone naming any other players,only numbers.
If we compare this with regular guitar players I would think that Steel players win hands down on being "nice" people.
Best regards
Billy

Allan Thompson · Post by **Allan Thompson** » 2 Apr 2008 1:55 am

Yes Billy, I think you and I encountered the same person. In one word ( asshole )

Michael Douchette · Post by **Michael Douchette** » 2 Apr 2008 2:39 am

You mean, there are some of us that are actually nice???

Whoda thunk?

Billy Murdoch · Post by **Billy Murdoch** » 2 Apr 2008 2:58 am

Mike,
I have'nt met You so You can't be the "GUY"
Bet that cheers You up

Allan,Ann would be shocked to hear You use such a description.
Remember I have met YOU.
are You the "GUY"

Archie Nicol · Post by **Archie Nicol** » 2 Apr 2008 3:11 am

If not a hornet's nest, then what?

Arch.

Billy Murdoch · Post by **Billy Murdoch** » 2 Apr 2008 3:14 am

Now Arch,
Yourself and Lord Thompson are possibilities.
The thick plottens.

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 2 Apr 2008 4:02 am

Billy
I think I know who you are referring to.

I am not sure that it is down to the person not being 'nice'. It is really just a ego thing, as the guy concerned appears to have a massive superiority complex. It was his choice to adopt the anti-social stance that he did, and it was his loss.

You guys in 'Commonwealth Corner' made up for this at the show by being ultra nice and friendly to a newcomer like me.

I think that generally, the steel players that I have come across all over the world are certainly not egotistical and are quite gregarious. John Hughey for instance would stop and talk for ages to a fellow steel player/enthusiast. Apart from one person at the Dallas show, I found everyone to be very approachable and kind in my recent 3 week stay in the States.

Charles Tilley epitomised 'nice' for me when he invited me to spend a day with him and his wife at his home at Princeton in Texas. He didn't know me from Adam, yet held out a hand of friendship to a stranger (and a Limey at that!)

Bill Dobkins · Post by **Bill Dobkins** » 2 Apr 2008 6:04 am

Now let narrow this down a bit to whom it couldn't have been:
Ron Elliot, nice guy
Tommy White, nice guy
Lynn Owsley, nice guy
Mikey D 90% nice guy
Bobbe Seymore ??????

Paul Franklin, nice guy
Doug Jerigan , nice guy
Jody Cameron, nice guy
Travis Troy, nice guy
Chad Udean, nice guy
Buddy Emmons,nice guy
I give up,,,,To many good guys who play steel but I have met a few with their sphinctor hanging out.

Michael Douchette · Post by **Michael Douchette** » 2 Apr 2008 6:07 am

90%??? Bill, ol' buddy, ol' pal... whadda ya sayin'?

It's my sometimes tilted sense of humor, isn't it?

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 2 Apr 2008 6:37 am

Well Bobbe was probably just cheezed that they wouldn't let him put his BMW in checked baggage...

EJL

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 2 Apr 2008 6:48 am

I can't get anybody to even call me a steel player, let along an unfriendly steel player. So just be that way, you bunch of self-centered snobs, and see if I care. You can take your old push pull's, effects racks, thrones that are better than the seat on my motorcycle, etc... and stick them up your...... I'm so mad now, I can't type anymore.

Just kidding! I've played music for about 30 years and the friends I'm made mean the world to me. I love and cherish all of you. You won't find a better group to hang out with.

But, If I hear "Way To Survive" one more time......

Barry Scott · Post by **Barry Scott** » 2 Apr 2008 7:00 am

Couldn't have been Al Perkins either. NICE guy.

Wally Taylor · Post by **Wally Taylor** » 2 Apr 2008 7:07 am

Ok, I'll fess up...............it was me....., no really, he was talking about me, I am sure of it. No, wait a minute, I did not go. Whew, for a minute there..................
Wally

Mickey Adams · Post by **Mickey Adams** » 2 Apr 2008 7:13 am

Lets refer to him as "Richard Cranium"

Al Udeen · Post by **Al Udeen** » 2 Apr 2008 7:16 am

I've met a few in my day! I don't play any of their licks!

Wally Taylor · Post by **Wally Taylor** » 2 Apr 2008 7:21 am

Who or whomever is being roasted here, not sure which is proper Queen's English, but I am sure the English Safety Cops will enlighten me, anyway, wonder if this guys reads the Forum??

Wally

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 2 Apr 2008 7:55 am

I know of several players that would match this discription. I think most of them are misjudged.
When we buy a convention ticket do we expect them to invite us for Thanksgiving Dinner. Some people smile and some don't. We can't judge what's inside a person. So why don't we lighten up on whoever and show some appreciation and enjoy their music and give them a break and let them enjoy these conventions too.

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 2 Apr 2008 8:12 am

i guess there is always that one guy.
everyone Ive met or talked to thus far has been amazingly kind and friendly tho. Ive dealt with alot of musicians and for my money steel guitarists have been amongst the friendliest and most helpful of any of em.

big name pros return my emails, answer my stupid fanboy questions, try to help me learn, etc. I dont think Slash would return my phonecalls (not that I'd particularly want him to or call him up in the first place)

Sorry you havd a bad experience with this one dude Billy. like I said..theres always ONE no matter what crowd

Peer Desmense · Post by **Peer Desmense** » 2 Apr 2008 8:14 am

When I play the pedalsteel people expect me to smile at the same time. Sometimes I actually try to smile while playing, but than immediately I hit a false or wrong note and the smile changes into something different...

So I do not smile, I just try to play my best, but that shows because the face appears to be unfriendly, which I am not but this look is the concentration look.
There are people in the audience that refer to me as the guy that does not smile and this hurts me; they just don't appreciate the concentration face.
Does that make me unsympathetic? Hope not, for during the break they can meet the steelguitarist drinking his drink and having his normal face.
Hope you see my point.

Peer

Mike Winter · Post by **Mike Winter** » 2 Apr 2008 8:30 am

I'm sure it wasn't any of the Portland, Oregon players, they're all pretty friendly, helpful and fun to hang with...

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 2 Apr 2008 8:31 am

Billy,What is a regular guitar player?

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 2 Apr 2008 9:05 am

I have'nt met a lot of the big guys[a few] the ones I did meet were GREAT guys,Met Buddy at least thirty years ago at a NAMN show in Atlanta,[I did'nt play steel at the time,was a guitar player]He spent about a half hour with me,and treated me like a long lost friend,Also met Mooney one time,he was the same way,Also Pete Finney,he was so nice to.Of course I know a lot of local steelers all are great guys,The only real steel player I have known that was a REAL ass,was a local player I played quite a lot with[I was playing guitar,wanting to learn steel]I asked him to show me a few things,He told me the steel was too complicated for me to learn,He should not have said that to an old hard headed red neck like me,With in a year I was playing rings around him,getting his jobs,he kind of disappeared years ago,Nobody that knew him,MISSES him.DYKBC.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 2 Apr 2008 9:07 am

Since we're not naming names here, what's the point of this post?

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 2 Apr 2008 9:14 am

Why name them,THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.DYKBC,

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 2 Apr 2008 9:25 am

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