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Larry Hamilton

 

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Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 10:09 am    
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I have often wondered what happens to the Pro's (BE. Jernigan, Hughey, Johnny Cox and the others) old used guitars. I often see them playing a different guitar at the various shows. I know many have more than one guitar but do they sell or turn them back to the manufacturer, sell them privately? Some times I see them on the forum after several years. Just curious. Thanks.
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Al Marcus


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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 3:39 pm    
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Larry-I guess I'll be the first to answer. I had 2 Carters owned by JR.Knight and 1 MSA Millenium owned by Pee Wee Whitewing. All very acceptable, as Jim Cohen would say....al.SmileSmile
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Rex Wiseman


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Cottontown, TN
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 4:44 pm    
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I bought 2 black Emmons with wood necks from John Hughey (Trap Truly owns one of them now) and a red Emmons from Bob Hempker (All push-pulls) Sadly enough I let all three of them get away for one reason oe another. They were all great guitars. However I still got "Ol' Whitey" That one will go to my Daughter someday.
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Rick Nicklas

 

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Verona, Mo. (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 4:56 pm    
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I have the late/great Jeff Newman's Kline U-12 he used for a while when he toured the states doing Seminar's in the early 80's. And, I just sold Joe Wright's Mary-K1 U-12 a couple of months ago to a gentleman in Queensland Australia.
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Larry Hamilton

 

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Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 6:22 pm    
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Thanks guys, this is what I wanted to know. I hope some more players will chime in here. thanks again.
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Danny Letz

 

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Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 6:46 pm    
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I am reassembling a 1984 D-10 Zum that had been taken apart by a man who passed away before he put it back together. Bruce told me it was originally built for Tommy Dodd.
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Jim Harper

 

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Comanche, Oklahoma, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 6:47 pm    
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I have Terry Crisp,s D-10 Lacquer Derby and it is great guitar==Jim Harper
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B. Greg Jones

 

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Middleport, Ohio USA
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 7:12 pm    
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I had one of Tom Brumley's ZB SD-11's. I got it from him in 1996. I used it onstage and the studio. It was a wonderful playing and sounding guitar. Then in 2006, Tom decided he would like to have the guitar back, which I promised him if he ever wanted to. Its back with the master now. I do miss it though.

Greg
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Michael Douchette


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Gallatin, TN (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 7:24 pm    
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The only "pro" used guitars I have are my own... I dunno what'll happen to them eventually... Oh Well
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Jerry Roller


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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 18 Feb 2008 9:22 pm    
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I have one of Mr. Hughey's last Emmons LeGrande III's lacquer body, the black transparant finish one with 9+9. I also have a '94 LeGrande II 8+8 Mauve mica that belonged to Dave Musgrave when he was playing with Ray Price. I also have an EMCI black 8+7 that Mike Cass used as his personal guitar.
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CrowBear Schmitt


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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 2:15 am    
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i had a D10 blue ZumSteel that was made for Mike Smith
it was a wonderful steel & taught me a bunch of stuff on C6 cause of Mike's set up
it is now in Italy making a good jazz musician (Ferdinando Ghidelli) 1 happy camper
after having Mike's Zum, i ordered a new one from Bruce w: the same set up + the Franklin pedal
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George McLellan


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Duluth, MN USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 4:09 am     Mullen
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I had a D10 Mullen that was built for Tommy White. A great guitar but it was too heavy for me so it's now in Limerick, Ireland.

Geo
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Stephen Gambrell

 

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Over there
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 11:58 am    
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Some get repossessed Confused .
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 12:08 pm    
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I have a D-10 Emmons p/p that once belonged to Doug Jernigan.
What's unusual about is that is was delivered from the factory with 11 foot pedals.
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 3:27 pm    
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I've always had the impression that, with the handful of 'name' players whose reputation carries sufficient weight, they'll get a guitar at a 'trade price', then sell it for a small profit when their next new one is ready. An Emmons or a Zum loaded with 9+9, for example, is desirable regardless of its history. If it has previously been played by a 'heavyweight', it becomes that much more sought-after.

Certain players seem to have a new steel each time I see them play!

RR
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Danny Letz

 

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Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 4:59 pm    
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I have another friend who has a white push pull Emmons that was built for Barbra Mandrell, but because of the car accident she had, she didn't take it. It has a plaque on the front with her name on it.
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Mike Cass

 

Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 5:40 pm    
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my mistake, Jerry R.

I now own the rosewood EMCI featured on the cover of Buddy Emmons Christmas album. Used on that recording,it has the original unmarked E-66's in it I believe,newer body decal though. Funny, but it doesnt sound like the same guitar when I try to play on it Wink
I might swap it for say, a black D-10 EMCI...maybe 8x7? Any like that around? Smile

Ben Elder

 

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La Crescenta, California, USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2008 8:56 pm     Under ZBed
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I have an original and squeaky clean 69 ZB D-10 that belonged to Sonny Curtis which he used in touring (no mention was made of studio use) with Tammy Wynette. It later sat under the bed at his sister's house for years. Forumite Tom Anderson sold it to me, so I assume he got it from Sonny's sister.
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Jack Francis

 

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Queen Creek, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2008 5:01 am    
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I got a call from Jeff Newman back around "84, he wanted to trade his Rus-ler for a Tele...Years later here in Phoenix he said.."You still have my name on there!"..I told him that He'd never be able to get work in this area. Winking



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Jay Ganz


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Post  Posted 20 Feb 2008 6:44 am    
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I've still got one of Hal Rugg's old Emmons from the early 70's.
It still had the original paperwork in the case with some notes written by Fred Trogden.

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Henning Kock


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Post  Posted 20 Feb 2008 7:11 am    
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Hi,
Interesting topic. I own and play these two great pedal steel guitars.
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See some older takes on YouTube
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Curt Langston


Post  Posted 20 Feb 2008 9:31 am    
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Certain players seem to have a new steel each time I see them play!


Indeed.............

The cost of such endorsment "deals" gets passed on down to the rest of us "Joe Blow" players, in the price of a new steel.

Incidently, it is the Joe Blows who make up most of the steel market.

Same with six string.................................
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2008 9:46 am    
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Curt

To clarify:

While there have been guitars provided free, that's unusual. I know that some makers (I won't be specific) have provided steels at a heavily-discounted price to their 'names', and sometimes at actual 'cost'. I consider this to be a legitimate expense, and it would fall under the heading of 'advertising costs', surely?

This being the case, I would doubt that the practice has much impact on the price we pay for a new guitar. In the case of six-string guitars, the production-totals are so much greater that the impact would be even more negligible.

RR
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Paul Frank Bloomfield


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Greece
Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 10:00 am    
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I am fortunate to own Gordon Huntleys first ZB D10
that he bought with his earnings from "Woodstock"
when he was with Matthews Southern Comfort in 1970.
I have now decided to change it to a SD-10 which,I
know , is going to upset a few people.
Frank. Corfu
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Ken Byng


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Southampton, England
Post  Posted 22 Feb 2008 10:28 am    
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Don't do it Frank.

Ken
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