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Topic: Roller bearing nuts |
Doug Jones
From:
Oregon & Florida
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 10:46 pm |
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| Any experience with having roller bearing nuts on your steel? Is there an advantage to it technically and tonally? Any comments? |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 10:09 am
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Doug,Howdy...My friend Josh Dubin used to have a guitar built by George Sel that had Oilite bearings that were grooved for the string gauges?I posted something about this a while ago a few people said that it was overkill,but I would still try them if they were available,Stu 
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 10:22 am Rooler Bearings
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I recently put guaged rollers on my MSA. I am not too happy with them. I have to remeber to increase downward pressure on the lower frets. At this age I don't remeber yesterday. Good thing about that, I don't remeber what I was supposed to be stressed about.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 11:19 am
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| I kinda think it's not really necessary. The rollers don't actually roll very much. I think if they're clean and lubed right, there really shouldn't be a problem. But to sorta contradict myself, I've lately been pondering locking nuts, like Floyd Rose type, with no rollers at all! |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 12:53 pm
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| If you have a standard keyhead without nut rollers, you get a scratchy sound as the wound strings are pulled back and forth over the nut. I had a Maverick like that. This might not be a problem with a keyless head, or with a locking nut. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 12:58 pm
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| My 59 Permanent has no rollers. I doesn't really make any noise on the wound stings. It's more of a slot than a real knife-edge. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 2:49 pm
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| There's no technical advantage using either roller or ball bearings as the amount of rotation is so incredibly small. Tonally, you'd probably lose something due to the reduced contact with a bearing (less string-to-body coupling). In a practical sense, good quality small bearings are also expensive, and they wouldn't eliminate the need for rollers unless the outer race was grooved - an expensive (time-comsuming) operation. |
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Darvin Willhoite
From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2008 4:07 pm
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I agree with Donny, if the roller made several revolutions every time you pulled a string, then a bearing would probably be an advantage, but not when the roller only moves a fraction of a turn.
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MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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