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Topic: C6th Altered Domiant scales Tab's? |
Steve Waltz
From: USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 11:40 am
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I'm working from The Ted Green books on single note soloing. It makes sense to me but it's all for 6 string guitar. I can transpose some of his stuff but I thought I would ask if anyone had some altered Dominant scales for C6th tabbed out already for standard set up on C6th.
I like Ted's idea to learn scale and arpegios patterns right ontop ( as in the same location on the neck) of a chord voicing in a position so that you have quick access to those scales on the spot. If that makes sense. I'm trying to learn how to get some outside sounds from a realatively basic progession and I feel like these altered dominat scales will be a quick way to get a bit of that done. Am I on the right track?
Steve |
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John Steele (deceased)
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 2:51 pm
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Steve, sounds like you're on the right track.. now it's just a matter of finding your pockets on the fretboard.
As I'm sure you know, the altered dominant scale is derived from the Melodic Minor scale which is one half-step up from the root. In other words, C alt = Db melodic minor scale.
On the steel, if you are working from a scale position based on the 5th string, then you can make it into an altered feel by using the minor melodic scale based on string 4, one fret down. That seems to be the most accessible place to find it, although there are others.
Here's a classic example from a recording we all know and love, Buddy Emmons steel solo from "At E's".
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C F7 C Calt F
1----------|-----------------|-------------------|---------------|----
2----------|-----------------|-------------------|---------------|----
3----------|-----------------|-------------------|--3------------|----
4----------|---------5---6-5-|----------3--------|----4----------|----
5-----5----|-------4---5-----|-5---3-------------|---------------|----
6—3-5------|-----3-----------|---5---3---------3-|------4--------|----
7----------|---3-------------|---------------3---|--------4~3----|----
8----------|-3---------------|-------------3-----|------------4~~|~3--
9--------4-|-----------------|-------------------|---------------|----
10---------|-----------------|-------------------|---------------|----
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-John |
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John Steele (deceased)
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Ian Kerr
From: Queensland, Australia
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 11:09 pm
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Sorry I haven't tab for this but these ideas might help you find positions for the altered dominant chords.
As was mentioned above, the notes for the C altered chord come from the Db melodic minor scale.Let's say we choose G altered to play over.It's notes are going to come from the Ab melodic minor scale.These notes are Ab Bb B Db Eb F G . From these notes you can build two major triad chords.These are Eb [Eb,G,Bb] and Db [Db,F,Ab] . These notes cover pretty well all the altered extensions needed relative to the G CHORD.[ie b5,#9,b13,b9,].So instead of playing in a G chord position , play in a Db or Eb chord position.You may also add the b7 note of each of the these chords so you then have Eb7 and Db7 [could use A to Bb lever]
If you play the notes in the Db position [fret 13]or the tritone position ,you have strings 1 to 8 to select notes from and then it's easy to resolve these back to C by moving back one fret to fret 12
Hope this is of some help. |
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Steve Waltz
From: USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2008 9:58 am
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I'm still working on the "pockets" that I was able to print out on the Buddy Emmons site. Good information.
Thanks for the help.
Steve |
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