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Twayn Williams
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Portland, OR
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 2:42 pm |
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Sorry if this has been covered before, but just a quick ? before running off to rehearsal night:
Is there a technical or musical reason why the C pedal does not also raise the 8 string E to F# like it does with the 4th string??
Thanks!
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 3:08 pm
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Twayn,your C pedal should raise 4th string E to F sharp,the 5th string B to C sharp,that's all.Some may have different pulls,but I think this is the norm.DYKBC.
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Kyle Everson
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Nashville, Tennessee
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 3:19 pm
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| I raise my 8th with the C pedal along with the standard pulls. I kept hearing its applications in my playing so I decided to add it. It opens up some different sounds which I have really enjoyed. |
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Bengt Erlandsen
From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 3:50 pm
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Having the 8string E-F# together with the 2pulls on string 4&5 will make the Cpedal harder to play but most important IMO is that you no longer can play the dom9th voicing on strings 10 8 6 5 w B+C & E's lowered. Notes = B Eb A C# = B9 on open strings. If you never play 4voiced chords or don't mind that the C pedal is a little harder to play then change the setup to suit your style of playing.
I do like the 8 string E-F# but I have it as a single string raise on an additional knee-lever (RKR2) so I can combine it split tuned w E's to Eb on LKR so I get F on the 8 string and Eb on the 4th string at the same time. Best of both worlds. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 5:43 pm
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I have the extra 8th string pull on the C pedal of my Zums and it isn't any harder to push than without it!
It is worth having for the extra voicings it provides in my opinion. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2008 10:00 pm
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I tried it for a while and didn't like it. It made the pedal stiffer for a change that I didn't really need.
If you always stomp B+C together you might not notice the difference, but if you hold the B pedal and rock the C a lot, the extra pull is harder on the ankle. I know, I'm a wimp. 
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Ron Page
From:
Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 9:25 am
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Same experience as b0b... and it didn't make me sound any more like Paul Franklin Jr. 
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Twayn Williams
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 10:57 am
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| Bengt Erlandsen wrote: |
| Having the 8string E-F# together with the 2pulls on string 4&5 will make the Cpedal harder to play but most important IMO is that you no longer can play the dom9th voicing on strings 10 8 6 5 w B+C & E's lowered. Notes = B Eb A C# = B9 on open strings. |
I won't know if I'll mind a stiffer pull till I put it on!  That's an interesting dom9th voicing, but frankly I'm not sure I would be using it at this point in my playing development. Hmmm. I'm going to have to think about this some more when I can sit down behind the guitar.
Thanks everyone!
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 28 Jan 2008 11:48 am
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| I raise 4 and 8 together on the C pedal. It's a little stiffer, but I like the sound of that pull. It also resolves a JI tuning problem with the F# on string 7. I tune string 7 to sound good as part of the B chord with strings 1, 2, and 5. I am then free to tune the 8th string C-pedal stop to sound good as the root with the B and C pedal F#m chord. |
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