SHO-BUD D10 With Case for sale or trade

[Don Lanier]

http://picasaweb.google.com/3partharmony/PedalSteelPics

Follow this link to view pics of a Sho Bud D-10 With case thats been recently tuned and gone thru by Scottys in St Louis.

The owner wishes to sell or trade for a Sho Bud E 9 single neck, New or used in excellent shape.

http://picasaweb.google.com/3partharmon ... 4396480274

More pics can bee seen if needed please contact Don Lanier @ dlaudio@earthlink.net
for more information. Its been used very little and the owner wishes to find a E9 Single neck pedal steel for his upcoming projects.

[Clyde Lane]

I don't think that is a Sho-Bud.

[Don Lanier]

Clyde its not my guitar but I believe that Scotty verified this was a Sho Bud, But if its not Im sure the owner would want to know, neither of us are knowleadgeable and trusting upon Scotty to tell us if it werent. What makes you say that...

[Clyde Lane]

Sho-Bud never had a pulling system like that(It is more in the line of ZB's), Sho-Bud never had a key head like that or a changer like that and the decal is on top of the lacquer.

[Don Lanier]

Clyde, Ive invited others to look this over and determine its lineage, we dont want to be representing it as somethings its not, so I welcome alls opinoins etc of this guitar.

[Stephen O'Brien]

I'll be very interested to find out who made this steel. I'd be even more interested to know how it plays -- the design of the pulling system is fascinating.

[John Billings]

I do not believe that is a Shobud. Although there are similarities underneath, there are some very significant differences. Many companies were copying Shobud's design. Some copied everything, others copied only part. I believe the keyheads and fingerboards are original, and are not Shobud by any stretch of the imagination. Nice guitar though! I'm gonna go back to the pics and do some zoomin' in.

[John Billings]

Clyde said, "the decal is on top of the lacquer."
The Shobud labels on my Fingertip (Nashville) is beneath the lacquer, but the decals on my 1959 Permanent (Madison) are on top of the lacquer. That doesn't matter though, cuz this guitar isn't a Shobud. Every time I look I become more certain. No way. I wish the pics had a higher resolution. I try and zoom in for detail and they just blur out.
Fingertip changer

Permanent changer

Underside of F-tip, which the guitar in question is most similar to.

[Cartwright Thompson]

I don't know a whole lot about Sho-Buds but I think it may be an old Permanent body that has been gutted and rebuilt with other parts. The necks look like the early Bud style.

[John Billings]

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... highlight=
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... highlight=
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=107167

A couple of older threads about guitars that look like Shobuds, but ain't!

[Don Lanier]

Well guys I can try and get more pics if needed, the guy is wanting to sell this and get a single neck E9 Sho Bud, but if this wasnt a Sho Bud to begin with, were still trying to figure out what it is, and what it now would be worth.

I know nothing about the instruments and trust many of you to give me the straight skinny on this instrument, it plays and has been used in performances for shows.
But Its the wrong Key(I think) Ill see if I can get him to send me more closer detailed photos to post.

[Lem Smith]

I do believe that Scotty is correct, and that this is going to be a permanent model Sho~Bud that's been gutted and reworked. The pedals look right, and the keyhead looks like some that I have seen that have had the anvil part removed and repolished to the anvil-less design.

Really neat looking inlay in it. Never seen any quite like that.

[Don Lanier]

It is in excellent shape and underneath there is writing in pencil with different measurements, calculating the levers etc.
Were going to take more pics and post them soon. I thank everyone who has offered info and were always interested in what this is worth. He is wanting to buy a Sho-Bud E9 or trade for a nice one.
If anyone else knows about these please give us the information on it, we appreciate it.

[Casey Lowmiller]

Whatever it is...it sure is purty!!!

[Don Lanier]

Well were getting closer to determining what it is and I again thank the knowledgeable folks who have offered opinoins etc, Its still for sale.
Anyone else care to give a gander at this Purty Steel. Any Ideas as to value etc.

[Al Marcus]

Cartwright and Lem may by right,It looks like an old permanent. Bobbe Seymour would know...al.:)

[John Billings]

Some observations on the body. Now I have a 59 Perm and a mid-60s F-tip. Both of these guitars have a quarter round cross section between the upper and lower decks. All my Shobuds do. The 1/4 round is a bit less on the F-tip, but it's still there. The guitar in question is not rounded at all between the necks. It's a 90 degree cross section. Also, there is very little space between the necks on Shobuds. Look at the pics of the two changer ends I posted earlier. Note how much tighter the spacing is on those two old Shobuds. IOW, this guitar looks wider than a Shobud. The pull rods are also connected to the changer by "C-hooks." Just like a Fingertip, but the pedal rack in the body, and the crossrods, and the "pivots' are not remotely Shobud.

[Lem Smith]

I'll readily admit that I'm not totally 100% sure what it is. To me, the pieces that hold the changer axle look more like those on a fingertip, as does the area behind the changer, but the area in front of the changer and around the pickup looks more like that of a permanent to me. I see the Sho~Bud "teardrop" knee levers, but I also see some other kind of knee levers as well. The pedals look right, but then again as John says, there are things that are most definitely not Sho~Bud on it.

My thinking was the the body originated as some type of transitional guitar between a permanent and a fingertip. Otherwise, I really dunno...

[John Billings]

When Shobud started building the Fingertips, they used the same bodies for both the F-tip and the Perm, which they continued to build alongside the F-tip. Here's a pic of a couple of my guitars. Perm in the middle and the Fingertip in back.

[John Billings]

Here's a better pic of the Fingertip body for comparison.

[John Billings]

Don, could you post a pic that shows the rear apron, the player's side?

[Don Lanier]

Were working on that, taking detailed up close photos and well get them online soon, I again appreciate your help and those are some beautiful steels.

[Donny Hinson]

The ticket says..."Many home made parts, very fragile, very odd mechanism..."

My opinion is that there's not a lot of Sho~Bud there, and that lowers the value significantly.

[Don Lanier]

Well the Steel is for sale and we are trying to establish its value now, well get more pics online soon but any care to venture what its worth, it seems to have some Sho Bud legacy and some Hand Crafted parts, anyone who can build that has to value there time and patience. It does play and has been used often, but its the wrong key for his needs. Its obvious that it has many fragile parts due to its designs, we dont know. He wants to buy a Sho Bud E9 so were tryng to get close, or if the value is not worth that(or close) He will probaby keep it. He has told me he wont sell it for nothing. Anyone interested or willing to venture an offer of value is welcome to do so. Thanks

[John Billings]

Don, why don't you contact Ricky Davis and see if he can do a conversion on it using John Coops parts? The guitar is quite lovely, and it might be worth a shot!