Feel My Pain

Bryant Aycock · Post by **Bryant Aycock** » 30 Dec 2007 9:00 pm

I just wonder if I can get some sympathy here. I've been fortunate to play with some very good lead guitar players. Over a period of several years I have tried to play steel guitar in "country" bands. Now I would like to play more traditional country and find these guitar players don't have a clue. I want to play good clean country with trade-offs and twins. They all just want to showboat. They can't play without a line of stomp pedals and a twenty watt amp to be sure it "breaks up". I just needed a shoulder to cry on.
Thanks,
Bryant

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 30 Dec 2007 9:09 pm

Welcome to the club.

Tommy Young · Post by **Tommy Young** » 30 Dec 2007 9:21 pm

I join JIM in saying join the large group of us and if we take our half of the breaks, they go to whining and crying

TOMMY YOUNG
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WHEN YOUR GUITARS TONE HAS TO BE ITS VERY BEST

J Hill · Post by **J Hill** » 30 Dec 2007 9:33 pm

You guys have to fight for what's right, you know. Don't cave in. Music today isn't. Even in church they're slaughtering all the hymns, what's left of them. And the snare drums and screaming showboating onstage drove me out of one nice fellowship. Has everybody gone crazy or what?

James Morehead · Post by **James Morehead** » 31 Dec 2007 7:22 am

OR start your own band and "groom" your players to the style YOU want to play.

I went and "jammed" with a fella last night that said he could sing anything country, as long as it's old country. To start off, he said what do you want to play? So I said, "how about some Conway?" He said "uh--nope", so I says "ok, how about some Moe Bandy?" "Uh---nope" "ok, just do some Johnny Bush then." "uh--who?" "OK, how about some Ray Price then?" "sorry", "OK, try Hag, then." He managed a feeble attempt at "Big City". We played "red dirt" music the rest of the night. His old country is new country to me.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 31 Dec 2007 7:37 am

I feel your pain. If it weren't for "overdrive and crunch", most guitar players today would probably stutter.

Dick Wood · Post by **Dick Wood** » 31 Dec 2007 7:38 am

I feel for you Tim.

I have been very fortunate over the last couple of months to get to work with Gary Stewarts guitar player and what a pleasure it's been.

Come on down to Texas,we got room for a few more.

Rich Jackson · Post by **Rich Jackson** » 31 Dec 2007 7:52 am

I feel the same but in a different way. I've been searching for a group(band)that wants to play with the traditional country sound but gospel. Finding this has been impossible yet alone finding a guitar player who would play like you described. I keep praying and searching. Who knows!!!!!

Charlie Wallace · Post by **Charlie Wallace** » 31 Dec 2007 7:58 am

'Man of Constant Solo" refers to some of the guitar players I work with. I am fortunate, however, to play with very good players who do do listen.

Bryan Daste · Post by **Bryan Daste** » 31 Dec 2007 10:58 am

Man of Constant Solo, that's priceless! When our guitar or keyboard player gets a little too "noodle-y," we call them Chef Boyardee.

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 31 Dec 2007 11:11 am

Even in church they're slaughtering all the hymns, what's left of them. And the snare drums and screaming showboating onstage drove me out of one nice fellowship. Has everybody gone crazy or what?

I take it you mean you don't care for contemporary worship music. I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread, though.

Larry Strawn · Post by **Larry Strawn** » 31 Dec 2007 2:20 pm

I guess I'm a very lucky guy now!

The guy I'm working with now is a very good singer, excellent Tele player, and loves steel!
He's playing thru an Evans amp with one little stomp box delay, so I weeded my pedal board down to just some basics myself.

We've only been playing together a short time but I feel like it's been for ever, every thing just seems to click.

But to the question of "feel the pain"? YES, been there done that, and it's not any fun!

Larry

J Hill · Post by **J Hill** » 31 Dec 2007 3:23 pm

Jim, I could sort of identify with how the original poster felt about bands showboating. It reminded me of the showboating that I've seen as well in some of the contemporary praise music bands. It just seems less all inclusive and more 'me oriented'. So he's got my sympathy, that's all.

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 31 Dec 2007 3:46 pm

Right now I play in a band that plays nothing but CLASSIC country,it works because the guitar player and myself are the same age and remember how it is supposed to be played,we just automately know how to splite the leads,when to play and the MOST importanr when not to play over each other,or the vocal,Have worked with some young HOT guitar players that don't have a clue how to do this,almost as bad as trying to find a young drummer that knows what a shuffle means.or a young bass player that knows what a walking bass line is.[won't be too hard on some of the youngters there are a FEW exceptions]DYKBC.

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 31 Dec 2007 4:11 pm

Even in church they're slaughtering all the hymns, what's left of them.

Yet another harbinger of The End Times.

EJL

Bryant Aycock · Post by **Bryant Aycock** » 31 Dec 2007 10:09 pm

I have several albums by the Hinson Family. This is really good Country Gospel. Can you guys tell me if Sonny Garrish did their Steel work? It's really good stuff.
Bryant

John DeBoalt · Post by **John DeBoalt** » 1 Jan 2008 7:44 am

Every new guitar player should have to go through 2 rounds of Marine boot camp to teach them how to listen, and obey. Next, several weeks of being locked in a room with a head set and repeated listening to the recordings of the likes of Chet, Grady, Jimmy Bryant,Leon Rhodes, Harold Bradly,and the list goes on. Jimmy Capps, Spider Wilson, and ahy of the other greats you can think of . Finally 6 months of lessons with Bobby Caldwell. By then they should have thrown away the stomp pedals or given up the instrument completly.

John

Ernest Cawby · Post by **Ernest Cawby** » 1 Jan 2008 8:06 am

yOU GUYS SHOULD MOVE TO fL. OR gA. GOOD PURE COUNTRY OR kEN fOX'S SWING AND POP.

ERNIE

Dickie Whitley · Post by **Dickie Whitley** » 1 Jan 2008 8:13 am

J Hill · Post by **J Hill** » 1 Jan 2008 8:36 am

The old geezer is right on. But all that "me" stuff is just human nature. Man does want to be the 'star' of the show. But it's just so unbecoming in a praise worship, where we're supposed to have learned that the star isn't us. Not all praise bands are guilty of it, but where the overwhelming volume is on stage, it's pretty obvious.

Robert Harper · Post by **Robert Harper** » 1 Jan 2008 9:28 am

Hey guys. I been around some folks that believe in old school country. You know Hag Cash Lynn and they to tell you how doo IR. Loudly and often Big egos never rest

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