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Topic: Where does it go from here?...Are we doomed. |
Ron !
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 10:11 am |
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Watching the Opry channel yesterday I could not overlook one of the worst performances I ever did see.
Was it me or are there more people that think this way?Where does country go from here?
Are we dwelling on performances like these?I am sorry to say this but if or beloved "Possum" keeps this up I have to suggest to hang his microphone in the shed.
Maybe I'm alone in comments like these but a abominable performance like this does not belong on the Opry's stage.
The band behind him was pure class.Not a note wrong did I hear but this cannot be said about him.When your backing choir teaches you a lesson in singing then it's time to give it up and sit back......relax and let the new generation have it's piece of fame.
IMO we should give more young artists the time to grow on the Opry.There are many,many young singers in our beloved Country and Western world that deserve a chance to make it big.
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Bill Hatcher
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 12:02 pm
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| Are you talking about George Jones? |
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 2:47 pm
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I watched a few minutes of the Opry opener, Trace Adkins..I guess from where I sit its easy to be critical but geeze Louise,the "few minutes of watching" part was a few minutes too long ...at least for me...
All I could think was that the Opry has really over hyped some of these people into the STARDOM , and quite frankly, they stink.
IMHO
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Bill Dobkins
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 3:04 pm
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I caught that show and I'm wondering, what ever happened to one take Jones ? But I listened to part of it later on WSM and it didn't sound that bad. Vocal correction I guess. The opry always sounds better on the radio verses the TV version. When my wife hears some of these shows, she says dear you still got a chance. 
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Sonny Priddy
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 5:20 pm george
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| George Was Still The Only Country I Seen The Rest Was Junk. SONNY. |
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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 5:53 pm
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| I would rather hear Jones sing all the wrong words and be totally out of tune than to hear a lot of what is called country these days. |
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Kevin Hatton
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 11:41 am
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| I'll agree with that Bill. |
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Ga McDonnell
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 4:11 pm
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The dang younger generation doesn't realize that with advanced age the hearing goes to hell. And turning up the volume doesn't help much because there's no clarity either.
I believe that for every poor (read off-key) performance by one of the older performers, that not properly hearing the band and backup singers was the reason for the imperfect pitch.
It's hard to believe that Geo Jones or any other skilled performer with a lifetime of musical experience would suddently be tone deaf. Old or not, when they're sitting around the house with just a guitar, I'll bet they never miss a lick. |
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George Redmon
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 4:40 pm
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| IMO we should give more young artists the time to grow on the Opry. |
There aren't any young.... "Artist" just Hat Acts created for the money they can generate. And jones, even with half his brain cells gone from 60 years of booze, can sing any of then under the table.
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Ron !
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 5:16 pm
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| And jones, even with half his brain cells gone from 60 years of booze, can sing any of then under the table. |
With all due respect George,....he was under the same table Saturday night.
I agree with the fact that Country these days is far from perfect when it comes to choices in songs.Most of what they serve us lately is complete "Junk".A couple young upcoming artists give it a shot but will be forgotten within a couple months.Is not the record industry to blame?They rather see big bills then give people some joy and laughter in their life's?
It's those people behind their big mahogany desks that call the shots.They choose the songs these youngsters play and sing.
Maybe this performance that I witnessed was because of poor hearing but things like that can be fixed.Look at Lloyd Green who had lots of hearing problems.Do you ever hear him mis a note?The man gets better by the minute if you ask me.And "Yes"....'ol Geo still has more class then the rest on that stage had Saturday night.....but......that does not make this wrong a right if you'd ask me.
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George Redmon
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 5:47 pm
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| Most of what they serve us lately is complete "Junk". |
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It's those people behind their big mahogany desks that call the shots.They choose the songs these youngsters play and sing.
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I just said that, in less words. And there are actually people out there that think "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" is country music.....i don't care who they are, or how long it took them to put the holes in their jeans or make their tee shirts ripped enough to suit them. But years ago the country artist like Porter, Hank Snow, Tater, Bill Anderson,Kitty Wells, Patsy all had class. In both their music, and apperance. You may consider todays crop of manufactured idols that look like they crawled out of a gutter, "Artist",. But i would rather take an off key Jones, or haggard, Bill Anderson, anyday, that the
i see on the GOO every saturday evening. |
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Bill Dobkins
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Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 6:26 pm
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One thing I noticed on that show. As they panned the audince when Tracy or Derks were on people kinda had this OH WELL look on their face, but when George came on it was different. There was a total change in attude from both young and old.They were standing
and singing anf having fun.
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Dennis Graves
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 6:47 pm
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As Georges' song goes...Who's Going To Fill Their Shoes"....not anyone on stage now days. I can't think of one of the "younger" generation that will still be selling records 20-30 years from now. There are no more George Jones, Vern Gosdin, Hank Sr., Johnny Cash, Tammy Wynette, Hank Locklin, Loretta, Conway, Waylon, Buck, Roy Acuff and a bunch others that I haven't mentioned. I despise what the Opry has become. I listen mostly when I'm home to Willies Place on XM radio. Brings back memories and good country music.
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Ken Williams
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 7:34 pm
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I didn't see the broadcast that you mentioned but a couple of nights ago my wife and I were sitting in front of the TV, just surfing channels. I stopped on GAC for a few minutes. Ricky Skaggs, the White's, etc. were putting on a show from the Ryman. Some gal started singing and my wife, a singer with a pretty good ear, said "is she off of what". She said "that must be someone's daughter or something". I replied something like yeah she's a little off, all the time thinking this is the most out of tune singing I've ever heard from an adult on TV. It did sound like someone's daughter, one that's about 6 years old that is. And, it may have been Ricky's daughter or something, as I am not familiar with some of the new artists. I listened to a few more songs from other folks I didn't recognize till I coulldn't stand it anymore. He must had all the in-laws, 2nd cousins, and everything with him. Maybe it was one of those monitor things.  No reflection on Ricky and the Whites.
If someone sang that poorly in bands in some of the dives we've worked, they would probably be told to hit the road, and here they are on national television.
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Stephen Gambrell
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 10:54 pm
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I've said this before, but---I remember Bill Monroe's last couple of years. He still had a good band, but Bill, God rest his soul, could not sing on key, and his timing was almost gone, as well. A well-spoken man named Ron Thomasson wrote an editorial in
"Bluegrass Unlimited," comparing Bill to a racehorse that couldn't win anymore, so he stopped racing. Those of us who knew Bill in his younger days, could only marvel that he was able to get on stage. Sad, but if you were there, you know it's true. So many of the old favorite country singers are in the same boat. Maybe poor management, or poor decisions to keep trying to answer their ever-dwindling audience's demands. Nobody will ever sing like George Jones did, in my lifetime.The same with a lot of the others, who still hang on. God bless 'em for trying, but sometimes, you have to let go. Sad day. |
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 4:09 am
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| We're doomed. |
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Eric West
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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Sonny Priddy
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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 8:21 am george
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| Boy I'm With You Mr. Redmon All The Way. SONNY. |
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Ron Sodos
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San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 8:47 am Possom
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| I saw ol George a year or so ago here in Albuquerque at one of the casino's. He was so awful I couldn't stay for the whole concert. It broke my heart. He has always been one of my favorites. Maybe he should have retired (like Michael Jordan) when he was still at his best. However, everybody needs to make a living and we can't deny him that at this stage of his life. |
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 1:33 pm
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George and Dennis,Right on,I think we sould respect the few country pioneers we have left,So what if they can't perform the way they they did in their prime,I remember seeing Chet Atkins a time or two shortly before his death,and yes his playing and timing had deteriorated some,BUT HE WAS STILL THE ONE AND ONLY CHET ATKINS,Yes there are a lot of people that think [and they have the right to do so]that things like bo-donk-a-donk is great country song writing.After fifty five years since his death Hank Sr. is still selling records,they WOULD NOT be taking up coveted shelf space in the record shops if they were not,IMO only I don't think [of course I won't be around to know]Big and Rich,Chesney,Cowboy Troy,etc,will be selling to well fifty five years from now,Real music never dies,look at all the infomercials selling classic country,the great do-wop songs of the 50's and 60's,and the mellow soft rock of the 70's,if this great music of the past was not in demand,these infomercials would be gone.
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 2:23 pm Re: Where does it go from here?...Are we doomed.
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| Ron Steenwijk wrote: |
| Watching the Opry... Where does country go from here? ... abominable performance like this does not belong on the Opry's stage ... Are we doomed? |
If you want my opinion on what the Opry should be, I think it should get back to its roots.
First, it should be a tourist attraction and shows should always be held in the Ryman auditorium.
Second, only acoustic instruments should be allowed. Bring back the old time fiddling, clogging, square dancing, 'hillbilly' music, folk songs, and bluegrass music.
Third, keep the show on radio, but not on mainstream commercial radio. Maybe satellite or internet radio.
Pedal steelers might flame me for my opinion, but I think the Opry started to go downhill when they allowed electric instruments onstage. The whining E9th A&B of a PSG or the twang of a Telecaster doesn't capture the spirit of the Opry like good old fashioned old time fiddling. |
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JW Day
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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 7:43 pm Opry Ticket Price
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| The last time that My wife and I had A Sat. night off,we decided to drive down to the Opry. I don't recall what the ticket price was.I think somewhere in the $30 range. I have heard and seen better shows down on Broadway, performed by the drunks on street, hanging on to light poles. I think that 30 cents would have been much too high of A price to have had to pay. |
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 7:58 pm
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You can see some of the best pickers around on broadway,at tootsies,Roberts,etc,Several times set just three or four feet from Mike Sweeney,what more could you ask for,that's a lot more fun than catching the rock and roll show at Opryland.
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Doyle Weigold
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CColumbia City, IN, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 8:10 pm where do we go from here
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| I'm with the rest of you in respect to "George Jones" and "Tradional Country Music". So where do we call the shots on ourselves. I'm not far from the 70 mark. I went from making my living in my earlier days to weekend warrior the rest. We still work most every weekend. I be old, fat, ugly, compared to my younger days. I've told the band to not let me embarace myself as far as my playing ability goes,but where do we call it quits. I hope not for a while. Hope this isn't off topic too much. Still enjoy playin' tradional country music. A Pickin' Bro. Doyle |
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2007 8:28 pm
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That's good Doyle,I have been doing it for over fifty years and can still hold my own,but I know my times coming when I won't be able to,but I'm going to enjoy it as long as I can,To all the young whippersnapers out there,enjoy it while you can,Old father has no mercy.
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