Steel ? for you better players

Tim Greene · From: Athens Tennessee USA

To what degree do you use your amp to color or change the natural(unpluged)sound of your steel when amplified.Or does your amp setting emulate the exact sound(tone)string for string as it would if not amped.Not talking reverb or effects and I know the shift comes into play but is it wrong to set your amp to allow the steel to sound the way it does naturally or should it be changed and for what reason? Thanks Tim

Steve Norman · From: Seattle Washington, USA

I think you should do WHATEVER it takes to get the sound and tone you want. Otherwise, tape a bull horn button down and amp the raw strings that way. Where I pick on the neck and how I dig in with the bar is how I really color my sound. there is no cheating other than sampling someone else,and that has its place also.
I have a sound in my head when I play, and I try and make the actual music copy that. Everything in the path from my brain out my hands/feet and back to my ear is a tool to color the real physical sound to match my ideal sound. The amp is one of many tools to externalize the internal.

well that was dramatic

Hope I understood the question..
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Gary Shepherd · From: Fox, Oklahoma, USA

My Nashville 1000 sounds pretty good. I never add anything else. Guitar into volume pedal into amp. Done.
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Bill Dobkins · From: Rolla Missouri, USA

I use a RV3,a VP into a Marshall DSL 401 and a Derby SD 10. So far so good.
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Jonathan Cullifer · From: Gallatin, TN

Sound can be affected by so many variables that settings have to be tweaked from venue to venue. Especially with open backed cabinets, an amp's environment has a lot to do with its sound. Also consider that no two pickups and guitars sound alike. People choose pickups, amps, etc. for their sound. Every piece of the puzzle affects the final sound, so it's impossible to say that amp settings are the only coloring factor in a guitar's sound.

Emmett Roch · From: Texas Hill Country

Every room/stage sounds different, and as Jonathan pointed out, some tweaking is often required from one venue to the next.

Even then, I tweak my amp to get the sound I want to hear...I'll compromise a little by playing with a bit more treble than I would use at home, because the highs seem to fade somewhere between the speaker and the dance floor.
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David Doggett · Posted 7 Nov 2007 10:11 pm

If you want to hear what the natural sound of an electric guitar is, plug it directly into a home stereo system or into a good PA or recording board. Or better yet, bypass the magnetic pickup and hold a high quality microphone over the strings. It is a very different sound than what we are use to from electric guitars. Over the decades pickups, amps and speakers have evolved to give us tone we like, not necessarily the pure tone of the unamplified instrument. Individual players take that electric guitar sound, and give it their individual tweaks, but don't generally try to tweak it back to the pure unamplified sound.

For a concrete example, a couple of years ago there was a thread where Paul Franklin discussed experiments he did with others in the studio. The consensus was that the more pure sound of direct into the board was not what sounded best. The best sound came from an amp and speaker that was miked. Sometimes in the studio they put one mike close to the speaker, and another one a carefully chosen distance out in the room to capture the room sound. They then mix the two mikes to get the best sound. So it would seem that pickup, amp, speaker, mike, and room are more important than trying to get the pure sound of the strings alone. Any tweaking a player might do to the amp controls, and the engineer might do to the mike tracks would generally be to get the sound they want, not necessarily to duplicate the pure sound of the strings.

[Disclaimer: I'm not what I would call a "better player." But Paul Franklin sure is.]

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

What David said. Cool

Bo Legg · Posted 8 Nov 2007 8:54 pm

Tim Greene...

Steve Norman · From: Seattle Washington, USA

oooh, I just noticed that myself...forget what I said! Embarassed

pretty new at this here
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