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Paul King

 

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Gainesville, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 3:10 am    
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There is a topic about young people liking real country music. What about the older folks liking todays country music? I have talked with many older folks and they sure do not like todays country music. I will even go a little further and say even the church music today goes against my grain. I personally will not go to any concerts with todays artists and the music they play.
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Darvin Willhoite


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Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 7:39 am    
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It's nice that we're all entitled to our own opinions. If I listened to country music, I could listen to todays country music as easy as I could old country. And, I really like the newer Praise & Worship music in churches. We did a brand new worship song last Sunday and it did exactly as it should have, it led the people to worship. Evidently it is working, our church is growing tremendously. In the last 10 years, we've gone from around 300 each Sunday, to around 1200.
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David L. Donald


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Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 9:22 am    
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I find I dislike few musics,
as long as musicians are actually creating it.

But still can't rule out some computer derived music,
because it CAN do somethings humans can't do,
and in the right hands, can still be musical.

Rehashing the same hip hop beats
and angry street rhymes I don't need,
but once in awhile something in that world
hits the ear ok. MC Hammer still rocks.


Old country sounds electric compared to bluegrass.
And I came to old country through bluegrass.
New country sounds like old rock in many instances,
and I came to bluegrass from country rock.

Bluegrass and jazz lead to celtic and euro ethnic styles.
Salsa and latin lead into arabic and magheb styles.

If I stayed stagnant all I would be listening to
would be Burl Ives and E Power Biggs...

In the CD player of the truck is :
Johanna Newsome : modern celtic
Flamenco Arab 2; just as it sounds
Firesign Theater; Waiting for the Electrician
Best of Hank Snow
Barry Wedgle and Steve Lacy; modern post-bop duets
Jackie McClean; 2 hard bop sessions from 1957

And in the DVD player;
just moved into the studio's apartment,
for listening during building.,
Lyles Lovetts 'It's Not Big It's Large.'
w/forumites Paul Franklin, Buck Reid and Dean Parks.

I guess I am not old,
because I couldn't imagine ignoring
much of the music out there, just because,
I didn't grow up with it in my formative years.
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Ben Jones


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Seattle, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 9:30 am    
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I am still waiting to meet the first person young OR old who does like "modern" country. I know they are out there somewhere because there are tons of radio stations dedicated to the genre...but Ive yet to actually meet one
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David L. Donald


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Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 9:51 am    
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Ben, I think we are too old to go to the right places.
And I am too far away.
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Dick Wood


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Springtown Texas, USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 11:54 am    
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Ben that person you're looking for lives in Harper Kansas pop. 1600 and if I had my sons ooops that persons phone number handy I'd give it to ya.

Nothing but criminal crap for him.
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Dustin Rigsby


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Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 1:41 pm    
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I'm realitively young (35) and I do like some modern country...even Big and Rich is kinda growing on me...kinda. You hear more pedal steel on country radio today than you did five years ago. I think in order for the gere' to survive,new artists should take the classic country and make something new with it.
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Darvin Willhoite


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Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 3:01 pm    
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The world changes constantly along with everything in it. I sure like driving my new GMC Denali truck a whole lot better than I would my first truck, an old '51 Ford junker.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 3:18 pm    
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If they don't like it, it's because it's not country. It's something else. It needs another label.

True, there is some genuine country music out there, but you ain't apt to hear it on clear channel radio. You have to look more toward college and more eclectic radio stations to hear the real stuff.....or just have to know what to look for in the CD bins .
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Paul King

 

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Gainesville, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 4:34 pm     music
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I can hear all the old country I want here on our local radio station. As far as the new praise and worship music in church, I get enough of it at church. Not all of it appeals to me but there are some songs that do. Darvin stated that their church grew from 300 to 1200 in a 10 year period. The music and worship has to be a determining factor in any church growing but it cannot be the only reason, and Darvin did not say that the music was the only reason. I admire him for playing in a different music situation than what many of us are unaccustomed to. I guess all the different styles of music is what makes the ole world go around.
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Darvin Willhoite


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Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 6:39 pm    
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You're right Paul, the music is not the only factor in our church growth, and it's not the most important. Having a great pastor and ministerial staff that teach The Word is probably the major factor. But, I know of several people in the church that started coming just to hear the music, and heard The Word while they were there, and stayed.

That said, we don't do only modern praise music. Just last Sunday we did a Country version of Blessed Assurance, and you could have wiped the tears off of my steel guitar. Smile
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Tom Olson

 

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Spokane, WA
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 7:13 pm    
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I think for most people, if you grew up listening to "old" music, whether it be pop, rock, country, or whatever, it would be difficult to enjoy most of the "new" music.

Notice that I said "for most people" -- there are always exceptions to the rule.

But it seems like for the new music, there's not as much effort put into writing the music. Most of the effort is put into the lyrics, the musicianship and the production of the music.

In other words, it seems like most of the "new" music just doesn't have the "catchiness" or the melodic innovativeness (for lack of a better term) as the "old" music does.
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Joe Miraglia


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Jamestown N.Y.
Post  Posted 16 Oct 2007 7:52 pm    
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Yes I do ,some of the songs. To me its not if it's old or 50 years ago or today Its the song and how well it sounds to me. Joe
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2007 1:50 pm    
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I'll be 68 in January and I "do" like a lot of today's country music, especially some of the Toby Keith things like "How Do You Like Me Now" or "I Love This Bar". Brad Paisley is a killer act also especially his guitar work. I see he just made this month's cover of Guitar Player magazine, how 'bout that! I like some of the girls also like Miranda Lambert (although I didn't like the guitar smashing thing she did on TV) she does have a very nice and country voice and ain't bad to look at either.

You can't say that today's country isn't "country" any more than one could say in Ray Price's era that his music wasn't country when compared to the country of Roy Acuff's or the Delmore Brothers era. All music evolves no matter how much some don't like it. Just roll with it and listen to what you like and don't listen to what you don't like! If some folks would open their minds they'd find a lot of good stuff on the radio today. For that matter, I think "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy" is pretty d@mn cool! When you can mix a dance beat, some good harmony, fiddle, and b@njo along with a rap feel you gotta admit, that took some talent to pull it off. I do sound for the VCMA's monthly jamborees and use that song for the "old fashioned" cakewalk. The bluehairs love it!......JH in Va.
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Robert Harper

 

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Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2007 5:58 pm     Country and Praise
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I seem to like nearly all the female country singers. I think they have more soul, if you will. I play at church and I am trying to like the new music, but I must say it isn't all that elaborate. I have three new song in there now. They seem to repeat the same words over and over. more like a chant than a song. I knoe theis has to do with ny ageethrincity, if you will.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 17 Oct 2007 7:32 pm    
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http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=116804&highlight=country

The above post pretty much summarizes my feelings on the subject. Yeah, I'm an old guy too..I can, and in fact do, say that the new stuff is not country. It has taken on another definition, but noone in power has been brave enough to categorize it. It should have another label such as pop country or country with an edge....some such other descriptive adjective[s] to seperate it from the tradtional style.

They don't come much more open minded than me.....I like and play a pretty wide variety of music. I have no problem with the new stuff, but I do have a problem with marketing it as country, when it really, honestly and truly, needs to be in a seperate category.

Nothing new, BTW, if you recall some of the weak offerings of the late '70's, early '80's....'til Randy Travis, Ricky Skaggs, et al came along to dig it out of the mud pit. I sure hope it happens again.
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 7:23 am    
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Jerry, I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of categorizing country music! Rock & Roll has Heavy Metal, Punk, New Wave, Classic, Oldies, Country Rock & others. Why can't country music do the same. There could be the Classic, Pop (Jim Reeves, Eddie Arnold, etc.), honky tonk, rockin' or whatever they wanted to call it. The problem is there aren't enough country stations to play the several varieties or styles there'd be. In my area there are about 12 rock stations and only one full time country station to choose from..........JH in Va.
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Darvin Willhoite


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Roxton, Tx. USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 7:27 am    
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I've never seen a clear definition of "Country" music, so how can I say something is, or isn't Country, if I don't know what Country is.

Most Country music I used to listen to was all about "Cheating on your wife", "Cryin' in your beer", "Somebody ran over my dog", "My wife left me for my best friend", and other encouraging, and uplifting subjects. I got sick of it several years ago and started listening to Jazz and Pop.
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 8:23 am    
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" I sure like driving my new GMC Denali truck a whole lot better than I would my first truck, an old '51 Ford junker."

Yes Darvin, but what that Denali cost you would have bought one hell of a house in 1951.....
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Ron Sodos


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San Antonio, Texas USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 10:09 am     new country
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I am starting to realize the problem is more with the artists than the actual music. You listen to most of them on TV and they can't sing. Taylor Swift (garbage) she is so awful live it is funny. Even Brad Paisley who I like immensely (sure plays a mean guitar) when you hear him sing on tv he is weak and out of tune. Now the old timers like Mel Tillis can really sing. Dierks Bentley (a joke) and most of the other young guys. Bucky Covington, I really like his hit record "A Different World" I heard him on the opry a couple of nights ago. He can't sing. O well. I prefer Bobby Flores, Jody Nix and the bunch from Texas over them all anyway....
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Robert Harper

 

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Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 10:30 am     Singers
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I watched a thing on 20-20 a few years ago how they could take anyone into a studio and make them sound good. I don't mind the singers all that bad. I don't like the material. Third Rock From the Sun, I hated. I don't know the singer or the name of the song, but I think it was 1980 something has no meat.Someone was correct when they said that the older music was abaout losing at love, divorce drinking you love gone. quite true, but these were songs with soul, if you will. I don't care for all of those however. I mever cared for George Jones The Race is On However, He stopped loving her Today was a show stopper. This is America, the cos are producing what they believe will sell and i guess this is the way it oughta be. As to categories. Yes, but we don't have that power. and some on was right there are a limited amount of stations in some areas. I'm thinking Satelite Radio. i just hate to pay for something that once was free
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Joe Miraglia


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Jamestown N.Y.
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 12:21 pm    
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Darvin. Good point. Country music definition--back in the 50's here in New Your State it was called Hillbilly, Cowboy,or Western music. Country Roots is where you live,( South,West,Etc.) your ancestry--country music has expanded and crossed over to many locations and groups worldwide. Country music has not diminished its roots, it has expanded. Joe
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Theresa Galbraith

 

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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 3:18 pm    
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It's always been what somebodies grown up with.

Personally, I've grown with the flow of music. Meaning, I listen to everything. I like hearing different songs, styles, different music. Best of all with steel! Smile
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Robert Harper

 

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Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 4:39 pm     Music
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Ah there the rub as shakes said. Lack of Steel
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 18 Oct 2007 4:40 pm     definition
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....the dictionary describes country music thusly: music derived from folk music of the rural US, esp., the S or SW US.
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