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Gary C. Dygert
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Frankfort, NY, USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 11:40 am |
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| Ok, folks, I've been a Buck Owens fan for over 40 years. What do you think of this CD? The steel has that Brumley sound. |
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 3:09 pm
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| What do you think of this CD? |
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 5:04 am
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| Existential...but questionably. |
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Gary C. Dygert
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Frankfort, NY, USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 5:46 am
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| What I mean is--did you like it? Think it's crap? Work with me, people. Just trying to get a conversation going here. |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 6:42 am
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Gary, what CD are you talking about?.......JH in Va.
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Chris Schlotzhauer
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Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 7:08 am
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Gary's talking about the Derailers new CD "Under The Influence of Buck", which is a tribute to Buck Owens. It's on Palo Duro Records. It's currently selling great and getting great reviews. It's #12 on the Americana Chart here: http://www.americanaradio.org/ama/displaychart_beforetracks.asp?mode=lw&dtkey=
Samples and downloads here: http://www.derailers.com/
You can also watch the video which has been picked up by CMT and GAC.
I could bore you with links to reviews, but I won't.
Gary, you started the thread. What do YOU think about it? Is it crap? |
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robert hays
From:
sikeston mo. usa
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 8:08 am Under the influence of Buck
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| Well I have the CD and I like it,I took it to KWKZ 106.1 And we like it good enough that we play it a lot!The steel work is great and top notch vocals too,I got mine direct from Palo Duro records, It is not "crap"! Check it out at WWW.DERAILERS.COM |
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Gary C. Dygert
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Frankfort, NY, USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 12:33 pm
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| Ok, Chris, here's my take. I liked it, but like one reviewer said, they sound a little too much like Buck & the Buckaroos (unlike the "Mama's Hungry Eyes" tribute to Merle Haggard, where there was some individuality). I thought "Who's Gonna Mow Your Grass" & "Johnny B. Goode" were not the best choices. "Together Again" & "Big in Vegas" were excellent. And I haven't heard that Tom Brumley style in a long time. |
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Tim Whitlock
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 1:43 pm
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| I haven't heard the record yet but I know, like all the Derailers work, it has to be well done and therefore cannot be crap or anywhere close to it. I remember Brian telling me about it back in February when they came through Denver and the obvious pride with which he spoke of it. I think it takes guts for a band to take on a project like this and it shows the degree of passion they have as torchbearers for Buck's legacy. I salute the Derailers and I hope this helps make more folks aware of the great Bakersfield sound. |
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Mike Winter
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 3:16 pm
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One of my favorite bands in the world, for sure. I've heard a few cuts...sounds great to me. Haven't seen them in concert since Tony left, but in my opinion they still have a great sound from what I've heard from this CD and the last one, "Soldiers of Love."
I don't think it's fair to compare to "Mama's Hungry Eyes," as that was a compilation tribute featuring many different artists. This one is a tribute by one band, so they're going to at least sound consistent throughout.
Like all their material, this one...from the cuts I heard...has great vocals and musicianship...Chris is a great pedal steel player.  |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 3:36 pm
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The title kinda hint's that you're going to hear Buck's sound. Instead, we hear copies of his songs so that DJ's comment is sorta valid. Singing's good, almost dead-on in a few songs. Steel's good too, but sure doesn't sound much like Brumley's tone, IMHO. Some of the Mooney stuff is closer, but it still sounds more "modern" and full, tonally. The old "twang's" just not there in the steel or guitar.
Like Gary, I always thought "...Vegas" and "...Grass" were two of the worst songs Buck ever did. He did a lot better stuff, and I've got at least a dozen of his early albums. |
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Chris Schlotzhauer
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Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2007 5:29 pm
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Thanks for the comments guys. That's why we have chocolate and vanilla. Getting 13 songs on a record that pleases everyone would be impossible. I will say this. Buck Owens was the reason the Derailers exist. When he passed, Brian wanted to do a true tribute to Buck by being as close to the originals as possible. Also, the songs are a chronological sampling of his entire career. "Who's Gonna Mow Your Grass" is very quirky showing that Buck wasn't afraid of treading new ground, which at that time, was trying to appeal to the younger hip audience. We call it a psychedelic waltz. Johnny B. Goode is the song that Buck ended every show with. Buck was a huge fan of Chuck Berry. Big in Vegas was the last song Buck performed before going home, and never waking up again.
We have been praised for how close it is, and we have been slammed. Tell you what, Dwight Yoakam is releasing a Buck tribute soon. He will have a different twist on the songs for sure, and they won't sound anything like the originals or Buck. I heard a cut from it, it was Close Up The Honky Tonks (not a Buck song), and he does it as a waltz. He will be praised and slammed for not sounding like Buck I'm sure. |
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Gary C. Dygert
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Frankfort, NY, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2007 4:33 am
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Chris, duh on me.  I didn't realize I was talking to one of the Derailers. The CD is definitely not crap. Mike's comment about "Hungry Eyes" is right. And you're right about not being able to please absolutely everybody with any collection of songs. Overall, I think it's great, and I'll be playing the CD a lot. |
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J. R. McClung
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 8 Sep 2007 6:34 am
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I saw the video of "Who's Gonna Mow Your Grass" on CMT (Pure) yesterday and throughly enjoyed it. I Noticed a different lead singer though. What ever happened to the dark haired guy who had a haircut like Buck's? Also, that silver flaked Telecaster the singer was playing, did I read somewhere that it was stolen a while back, and if so, was it recovered? All in all, I think the Derailers are one of the freshest breezes to come along in a very long time and I'm a big fan. Being an old west coast boy, they're doing my kind of music....JH in Va.
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Mike Winter
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 8 Sep 2007 7:31 am
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| Jerry -- the dark haired fella was founding member Tony Villanueva. He retired a few years ago and is now living (I believe) back in his hometown of Albany, Oregon. The silver telecaster is Brian's. It was stolen earlier this year, but thankfully he got it back. I think this is all correct info...Chris would know for sure. |
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Chris Schlotzhauer
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Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2007 8:38 am
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| You are correct on all counts. Co-founder Tony left nearly 4 years ago. Brian Hofeldt has been fronting the band since. Brian is a spitting image of Buck visually and vocally, and he is Don Rich on his silver Tele. Yes, the 68' Tele was stolen/recoverd/retired. He now plays a custom made Tele (actually the headstock reads Derailecaster in the Fender font), an identical copy made by Eddie Nowiwski (sp) of Ft Worth. |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 8 Sep 2007 8:55 am
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I don't understand why anyone would make or buy an album like this. There obviously trying to do exact arrangments of the Buckaroos. How can you improve on the original? If I want to hear The Buckaroos I listen to The Buckaroos, not someone trying to copy The Buckaroos. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Its like some Beatles replication band putting out an album of Beatles music. I would have been more interested in buying a CD from them if they had their own sound and acted like themselves. Dwight Yoakam is a good example of someone who was highly influenced by The Buckaroos, but didn't set out to copy them. By the way, you're not going to get Brumley's tone unless you use a ZB. Absolutely unique tone. That being said, the album is well executed.
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Chris Schlotzhauer
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Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2007 11:09 am
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Kevin, why would I come pay a cover to come listen to you or any other player sit up on stage with their bands and drill me with Ray Price or Paycheck shuffles performed just like the records? Why would I want to hear any steel player cop Emmons and Day licks to perfection all night long when I can sit at home and drink beer and listen to my own records? If your answer is "because we CAN", then you will begin to understand why we made this record.
Thanks for the input on achieving the "proper" tone. |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 8 Sep 2007 12:55 pm
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| Thats interesting Chris, because I don't play Ray Price or Paycheck shuffles. I'm stuck playing alot of the new country rock stuff thats on the radio, some original music with original arrangements, and some classic country and rock. The target audience that we market to is 23 year old women, and thats what they want to hear. I work as much as I want, usually 3-4 times a month. I guess if thats what you want to do more power to you. Personally, I enjoy watching other steelers play Day and Emmons licks. I'd even pay to watch them do it. Its just not what my target audience wants to hear. |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 9 Sep 2007 7:25 pm
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Kevin, I don't think you're really in tune with what the Derailers are all about. I love their music and to me they don't sound like Buck or Don, they sound like themselves. The "Bakersfield Sound" is a style of music unto itself and I'm personally very happy they're keeping such a great style alive. You can hear a Buck Owens or a Derailers recording of the same song and it doesn't sound the same, they each have their own sound. If someone can't tell the difference then they don't know anything about music! If and when the Derailers come to my area I'll be in the audience which is something I can't say for most new artists. To me, they're doing a great service to music much like the Stray Cats did for Rock and Roll. They're attracting a younger audience to a type of music where they wouldn't normally hear it and who knows, maybe some of them might even want to check out some of the originals......Keep it up Derailers, there's a lot of us out here who love what you're doing and I know your fans are gonna keep increasing in numbers..........JH in Va.
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 9 Sep 2007 9:03 pm
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| The target audience that we market to is 23 year old women, and thats what they want to hear. |
I gave up on trying to please them long ago.  Some of us have ourselves as our target audience. If I like it, then that's what I'm going for.
It's kind of paradoxical, but doing projects like this can be a great breath of fresh air to a band. Sometimes it helps you further define your own sound.
Good luck, Chris!
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Sep 2007 9:25 pm
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I just listened to the samples Chris posted, and though I'd never mistake them for Buck and the Buckaroos, I thought it was outstanding! Bakersfield sound with tone to the bone, and plenty of reflections of Buck!  My opinion only
Larry
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LJ Eiffert
From:
California, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2007 10:44 pm
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| Hey Mr.Hayes,your right on the turn table with this, Jerry. Man,I know My Good Late friend Alvin Edgar {Buck} Owens is proud of these guys.I sure am! They're doing what we all commingle out here on the west coast Sound.We know who the real Musicians- players are that created the Bakersfield sound,and I can a sure you it was not Dwight Yoakam.Now,all we got to do is get the guys on Radio Stations & they'll be around for a while. Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. & Pigeons with Clip Wings. |
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Don Poland
From:
Hanover, PA.
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Posted 11 Sep 2007 3:44 am
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| Man, I love the Derailers and had no idea that Chris was a member of the band. You guys done good, love it |
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