The Steel Guitar Forum

Those are all harmonized major scales in
Winnie Winston's book.

For the other modes, as others have said
here, start at a different point and return
to it.

Bruce in Bellingham




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Bobby Lee, You moved this here because the instrument being discussed has no pedals, you say. I could buy that if you had done the same thing with the previous discussion, which spanned two pages: "Telling the Story of the Guitar" http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/010327.html Which r...

Bob Hoffnar, According to that website, the instrument is fairly modern, from the mid-nineteenth century. As for calling it "Hawaiian guitar"? Would YOU drop into a shop that said: "Vichitra Veena Taught Here!" Sounds like an obscure Indian martial art. :-/ Well, I have to get ba...

Bob Hoffnar, According to that website, the instrument is fairly modern, from the mid-nineteenth century. As for calling it "Hawaiian guitar"? Would YOU drop into a shop that said: "Vichitra Veena Taught Here!" Sounds like an obscure Indian martial art. :-/ Well, I have to get ba...

This looks like a _very_ interesting instrument. It can be heard on the soundtrack to "Help" by the Beatles. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>The vichitra veena is played with the help of a small egg-shaped glass, calle...

This looks like a _very_ interesting instrument. It can be heard on the soundtrack to "Help" by the Beatles. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>The vichitra veena is played with the help of a small egg-shaped glass, calle...

Kenny Dail,

A pedal cheese slicer?



I'm outta here.

Bruce in Bellingham




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I'd like to thank everyone for a rip-roaring discussion. Funny thing is, my only real intention was to tell everyone where to find a quality radio essay that did justice to the pedal steel. Public Radio is heard all over the world... Guess I better watch them little side remarks... (or keep a hardha...

Stephen Dorocke, [QUOOTE]Actually, going back in the post a bit, the guqin is NOT played with a steel, or some type of moveable "fret." Notes are achieved by pressing the string or strings Illinois, USA to the fingerboard by the fingers.[/QUOTE] You know, I wasn't able to find any descript...

Lee Baucum, I encountered the idea while reading through the archives right here on the SGF. But don't think that what you want would help anything, prefering to rely on reason over opinion and personalities. Science, not politics. Joe Miraglia, E-harp. Of course. The craftsman who made it named it ...

David Doggett, <SMALL>Bruce, you're still wrong on all counts</SMALL> Obviously, I think that YOU are wrong on all counts. This is getting old. Time for something other than hot air and attempted verbal bullying. I'll bet you that a panel of acknowledged and credentialed experts on the forms of musi...

Delete this duplicate post, would you Bobby Lee? Don't know how this happenned. ------------------ Sho-Bud S-10 Pro-I 3+5 -- http://tinyurl.com/65rcv Wooden Steels Rock! <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Bruce Burhans on 31 Ma...

George Redmon,

You can call an elephant a "turtle" if you wish.

Long as you don't drool on my carpet.



Bruce in Bellingham



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I don't think there is any longer any doubt about it. Many of the people here would take the engine from a car, hitch up a team of horses to it, and thereafter insist that the buggy was derived from the automobile. There is no point in trying to reason with such people. Better to just leave them in...

Rainer Hackstaette & Bob Carlucci, The pedal steel is simply not a guitar. Not even close. It would be much more accurate to call a ukelele or mandolin or banjo a guitar than it would be to call a pedal steel a guitar. And playing a modern harp would be much better preparation for playing the pe...

You know, I should have been using "zither" instead of "harp", all along here. A harp that's made by stretching strings _over_ a soundbox is a zither. This look familiar? It's from the 12th Century. Yes, he is playing with a bar. It has 7 strings and is called a "guqin"...

Larry Bell: <SMALL>Problem is that sayin' it's so don't make it so.</SMALL> Indeed. Bruce in Bellingham ------------------ Sho-Bud S-10 Pro-I 3+5 -- http://tinyurl.com/65rcv Wooden Steels Rock! <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by...

Jon Light. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>Seems to me you are going back in history, saying that at such and such a moment you are retroactively changing the name of an apple to an orange and therefore apple pie is actually des...

Donny Hinson, <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>That's exactly how it happened! The pedal steel evolved from the acoustic guitar...PERIOD!</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No. It evolved from acoustic guitars that had been turned into har...

Larry Bell, A guitar with raised strings (rendering the frets and neck useless for their original purpose: to change the length of the the strings with one's fingers) is no longer a guitar. It could just as well be any wooden box with strings stretched across it. Which is called a "harp". ...

Charlie McDonald, So does the pedal steel without a volume pedal and amp.... It's changing the tuning with the bar as well as the pedals, more than sustain, I think. The bar is really a capo. Marty Pollard, :-) www.jazzharp.com Bruce in Bellingham ------------------ Sho-Bud S-10 Pro-I 3+5 -- http://...

Thanks, T.C. Here are a couple of interesting websites: http://www.minermusic.com/dolceola/fretless_zithers.htm www.harpspectrum.org/pedal/trotter_short.shtml On the second one, look down the page for: "Pedal or Lever Slide" The guitar is one instrument that evolved out of the harp, The pe...

Jeff, Many musical instruments have metal strings.....The Pedal Steel does not have a single fret....every electric instrument has pickups of one form or another and are played through amplifiers. And if a Pedal Steel sounded like a guitar there would be no point in learning to play one. If I were y...

Heard this on NPR this morning. He portrays the guitar as _evolving_ into the Steel Guitar: Hawaiian acoustic to Dobro to Electric to Pedal Steel. Good radio essay, although myself and many others consider the Steel to be an instrument that bears only a superficial resemblance to the guitar, being ...

Alan, Nice. Really funny that you should bring this up. I was thinking along these lines earlier... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>Perhaps more important, on the steel, than the inversion is the top note, which tends to be perc...